We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

Mischa

@Gargron Zulip doesn’t have voice right? What are you using as an alternative for that?

Netraven

@Gargron Not a participant, but I hope discord dies just because of how many communities it has destroyed.

Richard

@Gargron So, should we discontinue Patreon donations? And wait until you are set up in the new location?

Eugen Rochko

@waystation Why would you need to do that? You don’t have to use Discord even now, it is optional.

Dmian 🇪🇺

@lefteristrip23 @Gargron I’m just guessing, but maybe because they’re a small team that needs a solution and not another service to manage and maintain? Sometimes you just want a no-friction service that won’t add extra load on your employees. But that’s me speculating. There could be a way different but completely justified reason. These are smart people, and I trust they know what they’re doing.

Richard

@Gargron I don't use discord. I never even visit the Patreon. I just didn't know if Patreon is becoming an unsafe space.

Григорий Клюшников

I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?

Gosh I miss the old internet.

Eugen Rochko

@waystation We have a Discord for people who support us on Patreon. We’re planning to move from Discord to Zulip for that purpose instead.

Λευτέρης Τ.

@dmian @Gargron to be fair, matrix isn't quite there yet, indeed

Richard

@Gargron Ah, I misread. My apologies. I've been under the weather since last night.

The Net is Vast and Infinite

@Gargron @waystation Rather stupidly, a lot of software support and wiki's are now contained only on Discord, which has been a stupid move to be clear. Even purely social communities for almost anything host on Discord now.

The internet is a lonelier place for all the social interactivity it has hoovered up.

Time will tell if Discord have pointed both barrels at their feet and pulled the trigger... But nobody seems happy with the decision.

Dmian 🇪🇺

@lefteristrip23 @Gargron Even if it was, and it will be a mature platform one day, you always need someone to take care of it. It’s the same with everything you install on a server. And sometimes, you’re not eager to do that.

Lutin Discret

Reminder to anyone managing a #ActivityPub project that matrix has been adopted as the chat solution by bookwyrm, write.as, friendica, plume, pleroma, fedilab, funkwhale, mitra, forgefed, mobilizon, phanpy, tokodon, moshidon, lemmy, gotosocial, bonfire, voyager, tusky, lemmy, loops, piefed, pixelfed, manyfold, owncast and others. You don't need to start from scratch if you leave discord : join us on matrix!

@Gargron

Scale Theory

@Gargron

Make sure you use a different account name if you submit yourself to 1984 dystopia, so you screw up facial recognition subversion.

Dmian 🇪🇺

@targrus @Gargron Same. Also, thanks to this Discord affair, I learned about Stoat (formerly Revolt) https://stoat.chat

Benjamin Alan Jamie

@Gargron Thank you for the move and for talking about this publicly!

Targrus

@dmian I too had bookmarked this to see what other options folks were mentioning. Though personally I think the vibes are really off with Stoat. I don't think a one to one recreation of Discord is where I'd wanna go either.

Angela Scholder

@Gargron Never heard of that one..

jjsmith

@lutindiscret @Gargron Well maybe they didn't want to manage another Fedi service. So they chose a different option.

jjsmith

@grishka @Gargron I'm thinking it's to avoid problems with the government if it were to come to them having to come in.