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I love you @404mediaco, but I really wish I had a password auth instead of the whole "email you a magic link" thing every time I sign in.

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  • SlightlyCyberpunkA SlightlyCyberpunk

    @vkc @404mediaco They're REALLY big on emails over there. The CEO or whatever has me blocked on here because I once told him that I prefer to not give my email address out to every random website...

    Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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    @admin I use a service to generate fake emails for this sort of thing, it's awesome! I can always tell *exactly* who sold my email to folks, or where email leaks came from.

    I almost never give out my real email to anyone other than a human I know in the real world.

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    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

      I love you @404mediaco, but I really wish I had a password auth instead of the whole "email you a magic link" thing every time I sign in.

      As someone who deletes all cookies daily across a half dozen devices, it adds a bunch of friction.

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      @vkc

      i wonder if this is how @404mediaco tries to prevent the possibility of multiple people using the same account

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      • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

        "But Veronica! Why don't you just click the link?"

        Because I'm often not signed in to that email provider! "Hang on, let me dig out my phone" is friction, which for some folks might be welcome! But I'm ancient and prefer the old fashioned password prompt, which can sync across all devices without cookies.

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        #16

        @vkc
        Even worse when on phone, and it's running low on RAM, so swapping out to email and clicking through causes the browser to reload the page and start the whole login process again from the beginning..
        (no idea if 404 does this, I'm not even signed up there due to needing to sign up!)

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        • [384992] Ellie Winters  :v_trans: :verifieddemigirl: :v_plu:E [384992] Ellie Winters :v_trans: :verifieddemigirl: :v_plu:

          @vkc im not even old fashioned, im literally 18, yet i still prefer regular password auth over this

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          @ElliesSurviving
          You can be old fashioned without actually being old... (Any other variant would mean I'm old, and I'm not even pushing 30! Maybe I'm poking 30 gently with a stick, but it's still a stick of respectable length!)
          @vkc

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          • Ozzelot :runbsd:O Ozzelot :runbsd:

            @ElliesSurviving
            You can be old fashioned without actually being old... (Any other variant would mean I'm old, and I'm not even pushing 30! Maybe I'm poking 30 gently with a stick, but it's still a stick of respectable length!)
            @vkc

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            @ozzelot @vkc fair point, i mean in terms of that i guess you could say i am pretty old fashioned when it comes to certain things especially with technology

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            • [384992] Ellie Winters  :v_trans: :verifieddemigirl: :v_plu:E [384992] Ellie Winters :v_trans: :verifieddemigirl: :v_plu:

              @ozzelot @vkc fair point, i mean in terms of that i guess you could say i am pretty old fashioned when it comes to certain things especially with technology

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              @ElliesSurviving
              Wanting to control your tech and not having it listen to you at all times is apparently old fashioned now (as noted during a recent interaction with my aunt's new fancy car with some voice controls... next time I'm taking the bus.)
              @vkc

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              • Ozzelot :runbsd:O Ozzelot :runbsd:

                @ElliesSurviving
                Wanting to control your tech and not having it listen to you at all times is apparently old fashioned now (as noted during a recent interaction with my aunt's new fancy car with some voice controls... next time I'm taking the bus.)
                @vkc

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                @ElliesSurviving
                Apparently saying "hey (car), set the temp to this many degrees" is more convenient than having a knob that you just know from memory where you want it... I disagree with that, but eh, not my car. And never shall it be.

                (Not a Tesla btw.)
                @vkc

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                • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                  I love you @404mediaco, but I really wish I had a password auth instead of the whole "email you a magic link" thing every time I sign in.

                  As someone who deletes all cookies daily across a half dozen devices, it adds a bunch of friction.

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                  @vkc @404mediaco it's a super annoying trend with websites at the moment.

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                  • Ozzelot :runbsd:O Ozzelot :runbsd:

                    @ElliesSurviving
                    Wanting to control your tech and not having it listen to you at all times is apparently old fashioned now (as noted during a recent interaction with my aunt's new fancy car with some voice controls... next time I'm taking the bus.)
                    @vkc

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                    @ozzelot @vkc i dont drive and sometimes im quite thankful for that seeing how modern cars are, i dont want everything done electronically via voice commands or a central touchscreen, id prefer buttons, knobs and dials, if a car (or really any technology) can hear me (and it has to in order to do voice commands) without my explicit permission (usually to make a phone call, video call, or a voice message/voicemail, i dont have any other need) thats just a major red flag to me

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                    • Ozzelot :runbsd:O Ozzelot :runbsd:

                      @ElliesSurviving
                      Apparently saying "hey (car), set the temp to this many degrees" is more convenient than having a knob that you just know from memory where you want it... I disagree with that, but eh, not my car. And never shall it be.

                      (Not a Tesla btw.)
                      @vkc

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                      @ozzelot @vkc yeah saying the command (and having it hear you incorrectly about 5 times at least) is apparently more convenient than just a turn of a knob

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                      • [384992] Ellie Winters  :v_trans: :verifieddemigirl: :v_plu:E [384992] Ellie Winters :v_trans: :verifieddemigirl: :v_plu:

                        @ozzelot @vkc i dont drive and sometimes im quite thankful for that seeing how modern cars are, i dont want everything done electronically via voice commands or a central touchscreen, id prefer buttons, knobs and dials, if a car (or really any technology) can hear me (and it has to in order to do voice commands) without my explicit permission (usually to make a phone call, video call, or a voice message/voicemail, i dont have any other need) thats just a major red flag to me

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                        @ElliesSurviving
                        I'd drive some old clunker (and maintain the thing) if I had to - but I never even had a licence πŸ™‚
                        @vkc

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                        • Ozzelot :runbsd:O Ozzelot :runbsd:

                          @ElliesSurviving
                          I'd drive some old clunker (and maintain the thing) if I had to - but I never even had a licence πŸ™‚
                          @vkc

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                          @ozzelot @vkc yep, if i was to drive this is the exact direction i plan to take

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                          • [384992] Ellie Winters  :v_trans: :verifieddemigirl: :v_plu:E [384992] Ellie Winters :v_trans: :verifieddemigirl: :v_plu:

                            @ozzelot @vkc yeah saying the command (and having it hear you incorrectly about 5 times at least) is apparently more convenient than just a turn of a knob

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                            @ElliesSurviving
                            To be fair, it heard her the first time.

                            And then it also rattled off some info about the company that made it. I don't know what it heard to do that. I just know I'm not getting back into that thing.
                            @vkc

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                            • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                              "But Veronica! Why don't you just click the link?"

                              Because I'm often not signed in to that email provider! "Hang on, let me dig out my phone" is friction, which for some folks might be welcome! But I'm ancient and prefer the old fashioned password prompt, which can sync across all devices without cookies.

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                              @vkc that does seem very annoying.

                              If you don't mind me suggesting an alternative... I signed up once and have been using their RSS feed ever since which gives the whole articles, not just headlines. No login required.

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                              • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                I love you @404mediaco, but I really wish I had a password auth instead of the whole "email you a magic link" thing every time I sign in.

                                As someone who deletes all cookies daily across a half dozen devices, it adds a bunch of friction.

                                David ProchnowD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @vkc @404mediaco magic links come straight from hell.

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                                • OlivierD Olivier

                                  @vkc that does seem very annoying.

                                  If you don't mind me suggesting an alternative... I signed up once and have been using their RSS feed ever since which gives the whole articles, not just headlines. No login required.

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                                  @dacmot I routinely use RSS but not on every device, frequently enough I come across a link organically and run into these messes!

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                                  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                    I love you @404mediaco, but I really wish I had a password auth instead of the whole "email you a magic link" thing every time I sign in.

                                    As someone who deletes all cookies daily across a half dozen devices, it adds a bunch of friction.

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                                    @vkc @juandesant @404mediaco This pattern needs to die. I’m starting to see this more and more with new apps. I get they’re hoping to avoid disposable email addresses, but I’m certain this will have the opposite effect of what they’re hoping for.

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                                    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                      @dacmot I routinely use RSS but not on every device, frequently enough I come across a link organically and run into these messes!

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                                      @vkc definitely sub-optimal.

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                                      • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                        @admin I use a service to generate fake emails for this sort of thing, it's awesome! I can always tell *exactly* who sold my email to folks, or where email leaks came from.

                                        I almost never give out my real email to anyone other than a human I know in the real world.

                                        kasperdK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        I have been doing the same thing for years, and I found Linkedin to be one of the big offenders.

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                                        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                          I love you @404mediaco, but I really wish I had a password auth instead of the whole "email you a magic link" thing every time I sign in.

                                          As someone who deletes all cookies daily across a half dozen devices, it adds a bunch of friction.

                                          Max HarmonyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @vkc Yeah, I want to log in and read this now, not whenever the email with the magic link percolates through the intertubes.

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