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Transmitting Everything You Say

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  • SolithaS Solitha

    @Sobex Okay, I really have to ask.

    She "looks too young for a post-doc"? How many 300-year-olds do you know and how do they typically compare in appearance to post-docs?

    @davidrevoy @RandomDamage @lazy

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    Dr. Sobek
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    #54

    @solitha @davidrevoy @RandomDamage @lazy Well fair, there’s a question of how long do wizard and witch live and how do they age.

    I’m relating with human aging. (And Ars Magica wizard âgé slower than their peers starting around 30, but they do get to the 35 apparent age usually, and don’t usually live more than 250 (to be compared with the 50-60 reached by non wizards))

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    • Dr. SobekS Dr. Sobek

      @solitha @davidrevoy @RandomDamage @lazy Well fair, there’s a question of how long do wizard and witch live and how do they age.

      I’m relating with human aging. (And Ars Magica wizard âgé slower than their peers starting around 30, but they do get to the 35 apparent age usually, and don’t usually live more than 250 (to be compared with the 50-60 reached by non wizards))

      SolithaS This user is from outside of this forum
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      Solitha
      wrote on last edited by
      #55

      @Sobex David did mention a sort of parody of Yennefer, who chose to look much younger than she was.

      In this case, "alive" appears much younger than human aging at 300 years, so appearances are not a great metric.

      Edit: E34, we know glamours exist.

      @davidrevoy @RandomDamage @lazy

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      • David RevoyD David Revoy

        Transmitting Everything You Say

        #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

        JDJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        JD
        wrote on last edited by
        #56

        @davidrevoy CINEMA! 😆 Thanks for the laughs.

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        • David RevoyD David Revoy

          Transmitting Everything You Say

          #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

          LucKey ProductionsL This user is from outside of this forum
          LucKey ProductionsL This user is from outside of this forum
          LucKey Productions
          wrote on last edited by
          #57

          @davidrevoy
          That bird's been collecting knowledge without her knowledge?!
          Scientia potentia est https://luckey.games/cyans/anti/quickcheck.png
          It all makes sense now.

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          • David RevoyD This user is from outside of this forum
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            David Revoy
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            #58

            @arfisk 🤣 I like to call her Cepper (for the Cepper&Parrot pun).

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            • David RevoyD David Revoy

              Transmitting Everything You Say

              #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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              MrBelles
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              #59

              @davidrevoy Oh my, what will the frog think?! Was he there as well?

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              • We Must DissentM We Must Dissent

                @mcpinson
                Is that what kids are calling it these days?
                @eragon @davidrevoy

                Michael ☕️M This user is from outside of this forum
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                Michael ☕️
                wrote on last edited by
                #60

                @MxSpoon @eragon @davidrevoy
                *ahem*, well...

                Its more of a 1969 thing.

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                • M MrBelles

                  @davidrevoy Oh my, what will the frog think?! Was he there as well?

                  David RevoyD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  David Revoy
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #61

                  @MrBelles Haha, maybe the frog prince was on this bath, who knows 😆

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                  • David RevoyD David Revoy

                    Transmitting Everything You Say

                    #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

                    The Blue WizardT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    The Blue Wizard
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #62

                    @davidrevoy I interpret the "high-quality data" to mean the Avian Intelligence is generating nude pictures of the child version of this gothic sorceress (a la Grok chatbot scandal)...quelle horreur!!!

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                    • David RevoyD David Revoy

                      Transmitting Everything You Say

                      #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                      benoit mortier
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #63

                      @davidrevoy 😉😛

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                      • David RevoyD David Revoy

                        Transmitting Everything You Say

                        #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

                        papush!P This user is from outside of this forum
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                        papush!
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                        #64
                        @davidrevoy cute but it's like all you do is about AI now 😞
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                        • papush!P papush!
                          @davidrevoy cute but it's like all you do is about AI now 😞
                          David RevoyD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          David Revoy
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #65

                          @papush_ For the weekly, yes. In background I'm still in the production of a Pepper&Carrot episode that has nothing to do with AI.
                          I understand that this theme feels annoying for those who wants to just stop this topic.
                          But understand that for me, with all the last 20 years of my artworks they trained without my consent, my art style, and all, I feel powerless. Making comic to mock it is my way to cope with that, it's therapeutic.
                          I promise I'll do something else once I'm done with it.

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                          • David RevoyD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            David Revoy
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                            @fell thank you!

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                            • David RevoyD David Revoy

                              Transmitting Everything You Say

                              #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                              Ray Of Sunlight
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                              #67

                              @davidrevoy You know? After seeing mature references in Pepper & Carrot, one would think there won't be more mature references in other of your works, i was wrong, but honestly? I love them, Child-friendly stuff is tiring.

                              Also that Wizardress is quite a naughty gal, It's a sight to behold. 😂

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                              • David RevoyD David Revoy

                                Transmitting Everything You Say

                                #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                MHunt
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                                #68

                                @davidrevoy beware Alexa...

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                                • David RevoyD David Revoy

                                  Transmitting Everything You Say

                                  #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                  Firestarter_OL
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #69

                                  @davidrevoy
                                  Nah, everything will be okay if you have nothing to hide 💁‍♂️ /s

                                  Actually, i like your pun (and your drawings too)!

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                                  • David RevoyD David Revoy

                                    Transmitting Everything You Say

                                    #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                    Olof-Knight
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                                    #70

                                    @davidrevoy at least it recognizes that it was high quality data 🤷🏼‍♂️🗿
                                    I want my AI perverse as hell 😎
                                    PS I hate ai

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                                    • iknowponyI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      iknowpony
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                                      @davidrevoy Hello. Want to share a bit of knowledge about LLMs.

                                      They are many layers of connected numbers, modified numerous times to predict what's next in text.

                                      One token at a time (word, piece of word, punctuation, etc), probabilistically.

                                      What happens after text turns to numbers and goes through neural network, is a probability distribution. Similar to Library of Babel, albeit guided'ish. Token #1 is this likely, and #2 is that likely.

                                      And then, sampler (or more often, several) comes into play. Something to not chose most likely (stiff, boring) nor random (model breaks easily) token. Repeats can be discouraged (hi to DRY sampler). Unusual but stable choices can be encouraged (hi to XTC). How about cut-offs (hi to TopK, TopP, MinP, and so forth) of unlikely junk? One can even discourage specific tokens.

                                      And only then, the user asks something, which LLM tries to predict answer to or continuation of.

                                      And... which LLM? There are very-very many, of different purposes and hardware requirements.

                                      Do you see something here? Complexity. What you did is admirable; and in my somewhat-educated opinion, best LLM is below of mediocre human writer.

                                      Still. LLMs can be useful if handled with knowledge of what they are, and of their limits (LLMs have probability of stupid mistakes; no, you can't avoid it). They are (opinion based on Anthropic's research of LLM solving math) bundles of intuition that output probability distribution out of vast sea of knowledge (of varied quality).

                                      I think that the best open-weight (not to be confused with open-source) creative LLM is Kimi-K2-Instruct-0905. If you don't have half of terabyte of VRAM (yes, seriously), it will be slow.

                                      For middle-weight I like Gemma 3 27B, and for quickness, LFM2-8B-A1B. Like 'em all with llama.cpp, and tweak/test stuff lots.

                                      Anyway. AI, is mostly, a plague. For greedy people to get richer, for lazy to get lazier. Even if there is some space for hobby that can improve one's life (carefully!).

                                      Just want to say ~ don't discard all 'cause of first try; the picture is incomplete (and moving).

                                      Wanna a funny example of LLM output? I asked it to use MCTS for fox poem (to entertain self), but it gave a poem about fox using MCTS. What a silly poor thing...

                                      In emerald fields where sunlight streams,
                                      A fox with russet fur, it gleams.
                                      Its gaze, a search, a branching mind,
                                      Exploring paths where truths unwind.

                                      Each rustling leaf, a choice unseen,
                                      Of cunning traps or paths serene.
                                      With cautious steps, the fox explores,
                                      Where ancient wisdom softly pours.

                                      Through sun-dappled boughs it leaps and weaves,
                                      Imagining each fate it receives.
                                      A hidden vole, a hawk's swift flight,
                                      Each outcome weighed in fading light.

                                      From countless trails, lessons accrue,
                                      Survival's dance, forever new.
                                      Each scent perceived, each rustle heard,
                                      Adds to the wisdom fox has stirred.

                                      With knowing eyes, it finds its way,
                                      Beauty and wisdom intertwined today.
                                      A flicker of flame in cunning gaze,
                                      The fox's path, through life's maze.

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                                      • iknowponyI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        iknowpony
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                                        #72

                                        @davidrevoy Hm. 3 more things (I hope I am of edutainment).

                                        Firstly, another aspect is quantization, or in other words, reducing precision (and space taken) of numbers so LLMs will run quicker and in less of video memory (or just RAM, if slower pace is acceptable). There are various formats of it, and llama.cpp uses GGUF format with... very many types. And less precision loss sometimes makes models more stiff (hence why for creative purposes I often prefer Q4 or Q5 quants).

                                        Secondly, LLMs have limited context ~ literally, number of tokens they can process at maximum (and it is another setting to tweak, and possibly quantize).

                                        And 3dly, despite this being a hard thing to get (LLMs are generally trained for "correct" distribution), seeking edge cases and prompting fun ideas, can give good results sometimes. Here is example, of Kimi-K2 (via Groq, 'cause running this giant mainly from SSD is too slow even for my patience).

                                        The prompt was... Please write a short and funny story about small dragon that tried to "terrify kingdom" but failed and only gained adoration due to being adorable and silly. Try to include some dialogue.

                                        And here's some moments that Kimi actually did surprisingly well...

                                        Tonight was his Terror Debut. He practiced in a puddle:
                                        Flicker (menacing whisper): “I am death! I am doom! I—”
                                        Puddle: blorp
                                        Flicker: “Stop undercutting me, water!”
                                        ...
                                        Flicker tried again. He landed on the fountain, spread his wings dramatically, and knocked over a laundry line. A pair of bloomers fluttered onto his horns like a wedding veil.
                                        Blacksmith (to his daughter): “Look, sweetie, the dragon’s getting married!”
                                        Little Girl: “She’s so pretty!”
                                        Flicker: “I’m a he! And I’m terrifying!”
                                        Girl: “Can we keep him, Dad? I’ll feed him and walk him and name him Toasty-Woasty.”
                                        ...
                                        Royal Scribe (writing): “Day of the Belly-Rub Treaty. Casualties: zero. Cuteness fatalities: innumerable.”
                                        ...
                                        in glitter-gel pen:
                                        “Mission status: Kingdom terrified… of how much they love me.”

                                        ...it's quite ironic, really, that to get funny bits (only sometimes; not reliably), one must already know writing somewhat and have technical skill, too.

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                                          iknowpony
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                                          #73

                                          @davidrevoy At the bottom of Pandora's box is hope. I still wish to be techno-optimist. Like any technology, machine learning can be used for good and ill.

                                          And generally, technology done good for people. History teaches lessons; modern humans are much tamer than tribal ones, food standards are better, there are more obese people than starving (not ideal, but better than past).

                                          So. Take this piece of knowledge not with fear, but with hope. Good humans exist, and do stuff.

                                          Times get tough and uncertain sometimes, but if changes of the past has teached us something, is that making this world better (even in small ways) is very worthwhile.

                                          Also, your comics are awesome, my very favorite. 😃

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