I have a question for a niche group of people.

@slowtiger Yeah, Moho is in my list after we chatted the other day but I forgot to ask then if the UI is similar? And can you do combos of vector and bitmap tweening as easily as Flash?

Most things seem to do loads more than I need, but miss some of the things I use all the time.

@grmon I hadn't seen that, will take a look, thanks.

The main thing for me is the UI though, which doesn't tend to be the focus of comparison places, which are mainly focused on output. The output isn't such a big deal for me as I already use FFMPG for most of that side of things; so as long as I can grab the frames I'm good!

@eclectech just took a look. Toonbooms licence model is subscription crap. But I remember my switch from flash to hype having a rather flat learning curve. Happy to help.

I have a question for a niche group of people.

The question is for people who have used Flash or Animate to make 2D animations.

Have you found alternative software that has the same overall user experience as old school Flash?

If yes, what is it?

Please note I am aware of a lot of animation packages out there & I know a lot of them are great, but I have a LOT of experience in Flash & if I can ditch Animate but keep the overall experience that would be perfect.

Thanks.

#animation

@eclectech @eLearningTechie

I just tried Krita for five minutes. I could not work out how to draw two shapes with a line connecting them. That's the thing I do most often in a vector-drawing tool. OmniGraffle 3 had a really nice magnet model, 6 made it worse but still okay.

@eclectech
Then you understand the horrific touch of dread I had when I learned abput Apple's plans to make Logic and Final Cut subscription-based.

@david_chisnall For vector drawing Inkscape is my go to tool.

@eclectech I've used Tumult's Hype https://tumult.com/hype/ as a replacement for Flash for web animations, and they have a free trial if you have a Mac. There is some overlap, though nothing quite matches Flash's old vector tools. The nice thing is you can easily mix and match bitmap and SVG components, and the output can be tweaked in a text editor if need be and it is all in basic web file formats.

@eLearningTechie The best I can say about Inkscape is that it works, but the UI is incredibly clunky and I spend so much time fighting it that I can't focus on what I'm trying to draw.

@eLearningTechie The best I can say about Inkscape is that it works, but the UI is incredibly clunky and I spend so much time fighting it that I can't focus on what I'm trying to draw.

@eclectech I wish I had answers for you. Any chance you were part of the Flashkit community back in the day?

@eclectech
Yes, Moho handles bitmaps as easily as verctors. I even have characters which are part vector, part bitmap, or even video (mov).
The timeline will look instantly familiar.

Feel free to ask me any question per mail, or directly in the Moho forum: https://lostmarble.net/forum/

@david_chisnall I agree and transitioning to it wasn't the easiest thing I've ever done, but I'm quite stubborn, so for me it's working out great. But we're all different. Luckily there are loads of tools out there to choose from.

I have a question for a niche group of people.

The question is for people who have used Flash or Animate to make 2D animations.

Have you found alternative software that has the same overall user experience as old school Flash?

If yes, what is it?

Please note I am aware of a lot of animation packages out there & I know a lot of them are great, but I have a LOT of experience in Flash & if I can ditch Animate but keep the overall experience that would be perfect.

Thanks.

#animation

I have a question for a niche group of people.

The question is for people who have used Flash or Animate to make 2D animations.

Have you found alternative software that has the same overall user experience as old school Flash?

If yes, what is it?

Please note I am aware of a lot of animation packages out there & I know a lot of them are great, but I have a LOT of experience in Flash & if I can ditch Animate but keep the overall experience that would be perfect.

Thanks.

#animation

@eclectech Rive is worth checking out, similar to Flash in some ways: https://rive.app/

@eclectech https://www.synfig.org/

Synfig Studio? I suggested it to my "non techie" friend, and he picked it up fast enough

@david_chisnall @eclectech I don't know how https://friction.graphics compares to Flash or Animate as I've not used Flash in the last two decades and have never used Animate. I rarely do animation work, but have dabbled with Friction on occasion. It's pretty feature rich, but documentation could be better.

Secondary factor is I really don't like Adobe, and would like to ditch them. I have identified alternatives for everything else I use so this is my stumbling block.

Also don't mind paying for software, but would prefer 1. it wasn't Adobe & 2. it was a one off purchase rather than SAAS.