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So this is interesting.

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  • ๐Ÿ”ฎ oracle of dylphi :crumb_dancing: ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡พK ๐Ÿ”ฎ oracle of dylphi :crumb_dancing: ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡พ

    @xoagray@tiggi.es https://stoat.chat/ is this the thing you're talking about?

    Not a cosign btw, i don't know this team or this app

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    @kalviter Yeah, that's the thing.

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      @kalviter Yeah, that's the thing.

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      @xoagray @kalviter dead URL?

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        @xoagray @kalviter dead URL?

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        @DeltaWye @kalviter Just clicked on it, it works here.

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          @DeltaWye @kalviter Just clicked on it, it works here.

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          @xoagray @kalviter I get a cannot find host error. Wierd!

          NSURLErrorCannotFindHost

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          • Xoa GrayX Xoa Gray

            So this is interesting. Back when Dickscord was doing shitty things before I tried a platform called Revolt. It was a lot like Discord, but totally open source. There were some good and bad points about it. It wasn't anywhere as fully featured as Discord was, and some of the people on there were super cagey and creepy. But the software it's self was a good start towards something better.

            That said, development was very slow and it was at that point pretty much a ghost town in comparison to Discord.

            Somewhere along about a year ago, I'd seen reports that it renamed it's self to Stoat, and then shortly after died. I tried to log into it just to see if it still worked, and was unable. The login servers were down, it seemed gone.

            I was however just made aware that it is still up and running. I don't know if someone else picked up the dead project, or if they were just down for a while for one reason or another, but it does appear to be running again.

            So something to consider I guess if you're a Discord user and just don't want to be where Discord is going right now. Stoat is open source, and aiming at being a direct Discord replacement, though they don't seem to be there yet. So for the "It hast to be exactly a 1:1 analog of Discord!" people, you won't be happy. For everyone else though, there might be a little hope.

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            @xoagray what worries me is at some point the main maintener used genAI linecodes (from Claude).
            They realised it was too much of a mess and therefore reverted it, but that gives me the impression Stoat is unserious at best, and sadly FOSS isn't immune to AI hype (looking at you Firefox and Fedora)

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              @xoagray @kalviter I get a cannot find host error. Wierd!

              NSURLErrorCannotFindHost

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              @DeltaWye @kalviter https://stoat.chat There it is again just in case there's something about that link I can't see. But yeah, it works here.

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                @xoagray what worries me is at some point the main maintener used genAI linecodes (from Claude).
                They realised it was too much of a mess and therefore reverted it, but that gives me the impression Stoat is unserious at best, and sadly FOSS isn't immune to AI hype (looking at you Firefox and Fedora)

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                @hyacinthestripeyeen I don't like "AI" but I'm not going to hold it against them if they tried it and then reverted it. Clearly it didn't work and if they're not doing it anymore that's fine.

                Firefox, yeah, it sucks that they're going so hard on "AI", but I think they're also learning their user base doesn't want it. They've made a concession recently that there will be a toggle to disable all "AI" in the browser. So that's a good start.

                Fedora, yeah, I don't like that they're going to allow vibe coded contributions. I hope that gets canceled before anything goes too wrong as I do use Fedora. Hopefully with all the backlash they'll shift away from it sooner instead of later.

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                  @DeltaWye @kalviter https://stoat.chat There it is again just in case there's something about that link I can't see. But yeah, it works here.

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                  @xoagray @kalviter I wonder if itโ€™s somehow being blocked by Verizon?

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                    @xoagray @kalviter I wonder if itโ€™s somehow being blocked by Verizon?

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                    @DeltaWye @kalviter No idea. I don't have anything here that goes through Verizon's networks. Only AT&T and T-Mobile.

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                      @DeltaWye @kalviter No idea. I don't have anything here that goes through Verizon's networks. Only AT&T and T-Mobile.

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                      @xoagray @kalviter Huh! So odd!

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                        @xoagray @kalviter Huh! So odd!

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                        @DeltaWye @xoagray @kalviter get on a vpn and try?

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                          @DeltaWye @xoagray @kalviter get on a vpn and try?

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                          @colinstu @DeltaWye @kalviter that might work. Although itโ€™s still weird, you need to go that far.

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                            @colinstu @DeltaWye @kalviter that might work. Although itโ€™s still weird, you need to go that far.

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                            @xoagray @colinstu @kalviter Some hint on Reddit that some ISPs may be blocking it!

                            https://old.reddit.com/r/stoatchat/comments/1r0o1dz/stoat_getting_blocked_by_their_isp_for_anyone_else/

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                              @xoagray @colinstu @kalviter Some hint on Reddit that some ISPs may be blocking it!

                              https://old.reddit.com/r/stoatchat/comments/1r0o1dz/stoat_getting_blocked_by_their_isp_for_anyone_else/

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                              @DeltaWye @xoagray @kalviter this is why you don't use your ISP's stock DNS settings either. Change that shit. (I'd suggest searching up quad9 if you haven't done something already.)

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                                @xoagray @colinstu @kalviter Some hint on Reddit that some ISPs may be blocking it!

                                https://old.reddit.com/r/stoatchat/comments/1r0o1dz/stoat_getting_blocked_by_their_isp_for_anyone_else/

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                                @DeltaWye @colinstu @kalviter Interesting.

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                                  So this is interesting. Back when Dickscord was doing shitty things before I tried a platform called Revolt. It was a lot like Discord, but totally open source. There were some good and bad points about it. It wasn't anywhere as fully featured as Discord was, and some of the people on there were super cagey and creepy. But the software it's self was a good start towards something better.

                                  That said, development was very slow and it was at that point pretty much a ghost town in comparison to Discord.

                                  Somewhere along about a year ago, I'd seen reports that it renamed it's self to Stoat, and then shortly after died. I tried to log into it just to see if it still worked, and was unable. The login servers were down, it seemed gone.

                                  I was however just made aware that it is still up and running. I don't know if someone else picked up the dead project, or if they were just down for a while for one reason or another, but it does appear to be running again.

                                  So something to consider I guess if you're a Discord user and just don't want to be where Discord is going right now. Stoat is open source, and aiming at being a direct Discord replacement, though they don't seem to be there yet. So for the "It hast to be exactly a 1:1 analog of Discord!" people, you won't be happy. For everyone else though, there might be a little hope.

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                                  @xoagray

                                  stoat.chat

                                  Licensed

                                  GNU AFFERO GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
                                  Version 3, 19 November 2007

                                  AGPL v3

                                  It is text chat only so I don't see how it's a discord replacement.

                                  There are also open source zoom competitors.

                                  Discord has hit the right blend for gamers but still, corporate.

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                                    So this is interesting. Back when Dickscord was doing shitty things before I tried a platform called Revolt. It was a lot like Discord, but totally open source. There were some good and bad points about it. It wasn't anywhere as fully featured as Discord was, and some of the people on there were super cagey and creepy. But the software it's self was a good start towards something better.

                                    That said, development was very slow and it was at that point pretty much a ghost town in comparison to Discord.

                                    Somewhere along about a year ago, I'd seen reports that it renamed it's self to Stoat, and then shortly after died. I tried to log into it just to see if it still worked, and was unable. The login servers were down, it seemed gone.

                                    I was however just made aware that it is still up and running. I don't know if someone else picked up the dead project, or if they were just down for a while for one reason or another, but it does appear to be running again.

                                    So something to consider I guess if you're a Discord user and just don't want to be where Discord is going right now. Stoat is open source, and aiming at being a direct Discord replacement, though they don't seem to be there yet. So for the "It hast to be exactly a 1:1 analog of Discord!" people, you won't be happy. For everyone else though, there might be a little hope.

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                                    @xoagray

                                    i am trying to sign up there, but it does not seem to be working for me.

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                                      @xoagray

                                      i am trying to sign up there, but it does not seem to be working for me.

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                                      @lor Apparently they're seeing a lot of people trying ot sign up and it's overwhelming their servers.

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                                        @lor Apparently they're seeing a lot of people trying ot sign up and it's overwhelming their servers.

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                                        @xoagray I was able to get on stoat - how about you?

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                                          @xoagray I was able to get on stoat - how about you?

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                                          @lor Not yet, but Iโ€™ve been trying to find a way to recover my old account.

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