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No, LLMs don’t “pose interesting philosophical questions”.

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  • Æ.A This user is from outside of this forum
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    No, LLMs don’t “pose interesting philosophical questions”. You just haven’t studied any philosophy beyond “the trolley problem really makes you think, huh?”.

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      No, LLMs don’t “pose interesting philosophical questions”. You just haven’t studied any philosophy beyond “the trolley problem really makes you think, huh?”.

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      @aesthr The only interesting thing about it is how well it reveals the annoying human tendency to anthropomorphise everything.

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        @aesthr The only interesting thing about it is how well it reveals the annoying human tendency to anthropomorphise everything.

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        @veronica but we already knew that, it’s not really that interesting

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          @veronica but we already knew that, it’s not really that interesting

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          @aesthr We're already on very low values of "interesting" here!

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            No, LLMs don’t “pose interesting philosophical questions”. You just haven’t studied any philosophy beyond “the trolley problem really makes you think, huh?”.

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            @aesthr right? i feel like we're going through this period—most annoyingly in academia—of everyone in every field dedicating themselves to studying and discussing literally the most boring thing in the history of planet earth

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              No, LLMs don’t “pose interesting philosophical questions”. You just haven’t studied any philosophy beyond “the trolley problem really makes you think, huh?”.

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              @aesthr

              Does it matter that someone managed to build a philosophical zombie?

              https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zombies/

              I think there was some debate over whether or not zombies could exist, but LLM chatbots seem very much like this kind of zombie.

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                @aesthr

                Does it matter that someone managed to build a philosophical zombie?

                https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zombies/

                I think there was some debate over whether or not zombies could exist, but LLM chatbots seem very much like this kind of zombie.

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                @alienghic i don’t think they do, because they don’t behave like real people. They don’t even approach talking like real people.

                The whole point of the philosophical zombie is that the illusion is perfect.

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                  @alienghic i don’t think they do, because they don’t behave like real people. They don’t even approach talking like real people.

                  The whole point of the philosophical zombie is that the illusion is perfect.

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                  @aesthr

                  I guess the problem is a lot of humans are really easy to trick.

                  Seems almost like they want to believe and are working to help the illusion.

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                    No, LLMs don’t “pose interesting philosophical questions”. You just haven’t studied any philosophy beyond “the trolley problem really makes you think, huh?”.

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                    @aesthr Its the same question since Von Neumann Machine first was a thing.
                    Electric Math is weird and fast and can form any kind of symbols that mean all kinds of things to us...

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