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  3. This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why.

This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why.

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  • tanteT This user is from outside of this forum
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    This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

    https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

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    • tanteT tante

      This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

      https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

      @frueheneuzeitS This user is from outside of this forum
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      RE: https://infosec.exchange/@mttaggart/116065340523529645

      @tante did you see this? https://fedihum.org/@mttaggart@infosec.exchange/116065340521141516

      tanteT Fabian TranschelF 2 Replies Last reply
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        RE: https://infosec.exchange/@mttaggart/116065340523529645

        @tante did you see this? https://fedihum.org/@mttaggart@infosec.exchange/116065340521141516

        tanteT This user is from outside of this forum
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        @stefan_hessbrueggen I did not. Is there an archive of the post?

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          @stefan_hessbrueggen I did not. Is there an archive of the post?

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          @tante @stefan_hessbrueggen In the thread!

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            @tante @stefan_hessbrueggen In the thread!

            tanteT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen thank you so much!

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            • tanteT tante

              @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen thank you so much!

              tanteT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen This is fucking wild.

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              • tanteT tante

                This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                NfoonfN This user is from outside of this forum
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                Nfoonf
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                @tante hahaha lol. The repo is poor slopgold. 250 Open PRs in the last 24 Hours or so. With 15 more than 1500 LoCs.
                Hahahahahahaha… bazillion-times Engineer project.,:)

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                  @tante hahaha lol. The repo is poor slopgold. 250 Open PRs in the last 24 Hours or so. With 15 more than 1500 LoCs.
                  Hahahahahahaha… bazillion-times Engineer project.,:)

                  NfoonfN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @tante i hope they make a dev meeting soon

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                  • NfoonfN Nfoonf

                    @tante i hope they make a dev meeting soon

                    tanteT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @Nfoonf they do. There's many OpenClaw meetups where they show each other what their LLMs generated.

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                    • tanteT tante

                      @Nfoonf they do. There's many OpenClaw meetups where they show each other what their LLMs generated.

                      NfoonfN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @tante its like watching a bunch of 4 years olds competeing who can paint the most pictures with ctheir crayons. Only kids actually learn a lot from this.

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                      • NfoonfN Nfoonf

                        @tante its like watching a bunch of 4 years olds competeing who can paint the most pictures with ctheir crayons. Only kids actually learn a lot from this.

                        tanteT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        tante
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                        @Nfoonf it's the future.

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                        • tanteT tante

                          @Nfoonf it's the future.

                          NfoonfN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Nfoonf
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                          @tante the future is a merge conflict then, i suppose

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                          • tanteT tante

                            This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                            https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                            Henri VerymetaldevV This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Henri Verymetaldev
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                            @tante

                            "That’s where human in the loop setups come into play: What if the company can just hire one sucker to “check” all the “AI” slop and when things fall apart that one person has to take the blame. Fun!"

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                            • tanteT tante

                              This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                              https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                              Pierre H.M This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @tante @joe I mean we were just getting rid of memory unsafety — kinda — and we invented a better idiot.

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                                This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                                https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

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                                James Widman
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                                @tante
                                > (Sidenote: It should be the law that when you offer or run an “AI” you are 100% liable for everything it does. Sure, that would kill the whole industry but who gives a shit?)

                                i give a shit. i want us, collectively, to deliberately end the entire gen-"a.i." industry. i want the data centers that were built for that purpose to be completely physically dismantled, and the CPUs & DRAM repurposed. i want charges to be brought against its leaders for a wide variety of damages.

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                                  @tante
                                  > (Sidenote: It should be the law that when you offer or run an “AI” you are 100% liable for everything it does. Sure, that would kill the whole industry but who gives a shit?)

                                  i give a shit. i want us, collectively, to deliberately end the entire gen-"a.i." industry. i want the data centers that were built for that purpose to be completely physically dismantled, and the CPUs & DRAM repurposed. i want charges to be brought against its leaders for a wide variety of damages.

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                                  James Widman
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                                  @tante https://mastodon.social/@JamesWidman/116032953161658413

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                                  • tanteT tante

                                    This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                                    https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

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                                    @tante

                                    "There is zero artificial intelligence today. There could have been, but 50 years ago the decision was made by most scientists and companies to go with machine learning, which was quick and easy, instead of the difficult task of actually reverse engineering and then replicating the human brain.

                                    So instead what we have today is machine learning combined with mass plagiarism which we call ‘generative AI’, essentially performing what is akin to a magic trick so that it appears, at times, to be intelligent.

                                    While the topic of machine learning is complex in detail, it is simple in concept, which is all we have room for here. Essentially machine learning is simply presenting many thousands or millions of samples to a computer until the associative components ‘learn’ what it is, for example pictures of a daisy from all angles and incarnations.

                                    Then companies scoured the internet in the greatest crime of mass plagiarism in history, and used the basic ability of machine learning to recognize nouns, verbs, etc. to chop up and recombine actual human writings and thoughts into ‘generative AI’.

                                    So by recognizing basic grammar and hopefully deducing the basic ideas of a query, and then recombining human writings which appear to match that query, we get a very faulty appearance of intelligence - generative AI.

                                    But the problem is, as I said in the beginning, there is no actual intelligence involved at all. These programs have no idea what a daisy, or love, or hate, or compassion, or a truck, or horse, or wagon, or anything else, actually is. They just have the ability to do a very faulty combinatorial trick to appear as if they do.

                                    And while the human brain consumes around 20 watts, these massive pattern matching computers consume ever increasing billions.

                                    However there is hope that actual general intelligence can be created because, thankfully, a handful of scientists rejected machine learning and instead have been working on recreating the connectome of the human brain for 50 years, and they are within a few decades of achieving that goal and truly replicating the human brain, creating true general intelligence.

                                    In the meantime it's important for our species to recognize the danger of relying on generative AI for anything, as it's akin to relying on a magician to conjure up a real, physical, living, bunny rabbit.

                                    So relying on it to drive cars, or control any critical systems, will always result in massive errors, often leading to real destruction and death."
                                    SearingTruth

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                                      @tante https://mastodon.social/@JamesWidman/116032953161658413

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                                      James Widman
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                                      @tante but yeah, the fact the people aren't going to be able to trust FLOSS for the foreseeable future is... unimaginably bad.

                                      it's like if scam health-food influencers took control of the CDC.

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                                      • tanteT tante

                                        This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                                        https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                                        Ben ScheirmanB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Ben Scheirman
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                                        @tante @huwr there are a lot of good points and criticisms here, but Peter is not the “tech bro wannabe Elon” you say he is. He’s actually a caring thoughtful human who will probably be really hurt by these words.

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                                        • tanteT tante

                                          @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen thank you so much!

                                          Michael SimonsR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Michael Simons
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                                          @tante @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen here’s the blog from Scott https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-me/ mind blowing.

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