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I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

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  • James GleickG James Gleick

    I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

    Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

    Andreas KY This user is from outside of this forum
    Andreas KY This user is from outside of this forum
    Andreas K
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    @gleick
    Sorry, as an European he never was a good guy.

    Amazon was convenient and still is, for buying foreign language books, but convenience does not make it ethical.

    And me personal I was always sceptical of concentration benefits. As these bluntly lead to monopoly and that leads to extortion games to the disadvantage of the consumers, that's a given natural law, like apples fall from trees downwards.

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    • James GleickG James Gleick

      I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

      Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

      Sam Bowne :donor:S This user is from outside of this forum
      Sam Bowne :donor:S This user is from outside of this forum
      Sam Bowne :donor:
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      @gleick It's amazingly poor judgment to jump on the Trump train when it's already falling apart. Most people are distancing themselves from him now.

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      • Andreas KY Andreas K

        @gleick
        Sorry, as an European he never was a good guy.

        Amazon was convenient and still is, for buying foreign language books, but convenience does not make it ethical.

        And me personal I was always sceptical of concentration benefits. As these bluntly lead to monopoly and that leads to extortion games to the disadvantage of the consumers, that's a given natural law, like apples fall from trees downwards.

        LRL This user is from outside of this forum
        LRL This user is from outside of this forum
        LR
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        @yacc143 @gleick indeed. the way germans learned about bezos was that it was his fault all small book stores had to close.

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        • Andreas KY Andreas K

          @gleick
          Sorry, as an European he never was a good guy.

          Amazon was convenient and still is, for buying foreign language books, but convenience does not make it ethical.

          And me personal I was always sceptical of concentration benefits. As these bluntly lead to monopoly and that leads to extortion games to the disadvantage of the consumers, that's a given natural law, like apples fall from trees downwards.

          James GleickG This user is from outside of this forum
          James GleickG This user is from outside of this forum
          James Gleick
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          @yacc143 I didn’t say he was. We all know what Amazon did and what it became. What I said was that—unlike you, apparently—I’m old enough to remember when that hadn’t happened yet. And didn’t have to happen.

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          • Ted ReT Ted Re

            @gleick I only remember Amazon destroying physical book stores, paying employees so little they need food stamps, and working them so hard that they had to pee in a bottle rather than take a toilet break.

            James GleickG This user is from outside of this forum
            James GleickG This user is from outside of this forum
            James Gleick
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            @Tedre123 Yes, I remember all that, too. It came later, believe it or not.

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            • James GleickG James Gleick

              I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

              Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

              Bill SeitzB This user is from outside of this forum
              Bill SeitzB This user is from outside of this forum
              Bill Seitz
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              @gleick not to mention
              https://www.wired.com/story/amazon-let-its-drivers-urine-be-sold-as-an-energy-drink/
              https://www.newsweek.com/jeff-bezos-venice-wedding-was-relatively-cheap-2092162

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              • James GleickG James Gleick

                I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

                Colorblind CowboyC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @gleick I saw him as a guy trying to put bookstores out of business (while not making a profit himself for years). And he’s just gotten more evil from there.

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                • James GleickG James Gleick

                  I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                  Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

                  John Q McDonaldJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  John Q McDonaldJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @gleick
                  “Don’t be evil”

                  really means

                  “Don’t be evil until you’re obscenely rich.”

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                  • James GleickG James Gleick

                    I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                    Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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                    Alton Barrett
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                    @gleick aye

                    ‘Yes #Bezos,
                    https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2017/02/21/to-billionaire-doomsday-preppers-your-wealth-wont-save-you #Yes - -

                    To Billionaire Doomsday Preppers: Your Wealth Won’t Save You

                    #music #TaxTheRich #FeedThePoor #TillThereAreNoRichNoMore #ArtMusic #TenYearsAfterTenYearsAfter

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                    • James GleickG James Gleick

                      I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                      Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

                      Acin ☆S This user is from outside of this forum
                      Acin ☆S This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @gleick @jf_718

                      I'll always remember him for what I first learned about him: (1) for campaigning against the closure of Borders and indie bookstores (destroying my favorite date night, gift-buying, and meeting places, leaving a vacuum for years that hasn't filled in) then (2) for a candid interview in which he described his dream for Amazon was to collect as much info on behavior as possible so he could provide the goods needed by the master class orbiting around a toxic Earth where only the enslaved working class remained.

                      It's ever since been stuck in my mind that he expects or expected to be alive to witness that dystopian future and that, if his words were quoted accurately, seemed to fill him with hope.

                      This is what people support with "just buy it on Amazon. It's easy." This is what Amazon's buyers money and browsing data were meant for.

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                      • Acin ☆S Acin ☆

                        @gleick @jf_718

                        I'll always remember him for what I first learned about him: (1) for campaigning against the closure of Borders and indie bookstores (destroying my favorite date night, gift-buying, and meeting places, leaving a vacuum for years that hasn't filled in) then (2) for a candid interview in which he described his dream for Amazon was to collect as much info on behavior as possible so he could provide the goods needed by the master class orbiting around a toxic Earth where only the enslaved working class remained.

                        It's ever since been stuck in my mind that he expects or expected to be alive to witness that dystopian future and that, if his words were quoted accurately, seemed to fill him with hope.

                        This is what people support with "just buy it on Amazon. It's easy." This is what Amazon's buyers money and browsing data were meant for.

                        Acin ☆S This user is from outside of this forum
                        Acin ☆S This user is from outside of this forum
                        Acin ☆
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                        @gleick @jf_718

                        I can't imagine him only being a clever entrepreneur who supports books. That's too different from how I learned about the existence of Amazon.

                        (Hasn't helped that I have experience as an Amazon author and peer to authors who've been jerked around by the company again and again and again....)

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                        • James GleickG James Gleick

                          I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                          Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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                          @gleick Yes! He will also be remembered for that time when he flew to space with William Shatner and when a very emotional Shatner tried to describe the impact the experience had on him, Bezos interrupted by spraying champagne like an idiot. Shatner was trying to express something incredibly emotional, and that jackass couldn't be bothered to pretend to care for even a second.

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