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DYK the speculum hasn’t changed since the 1800s?

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  • MarianneN Marianne

    @AnnieBuddy @JoBlakely @anna_lillith well, not just that. They also detect cancer and pre-cancer which is, yknow, deadly.
    Yep, the instruments suck. And people are finally being given the funds to do the work needed to improve them.

    But personally I'd rather have the occasional unpleasant appointment than cancer treatment that might not work because I wasn't diagnosed early enough.

    Sadly boobs and cervices don't dangle conveniently like testicles..!

    Jo - pièce de résistanceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @noodlemaz @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith

    Dogs could be trained to detect by smell. They are always sticking their noses there. It’d be way nicer if you went to the dogtor. Less invasive and not painful. Plus cuteness. Pay in dog treats. lol. I’ve heard they can detect with more accuracy even by breath.
    Why not train more dognostics.
    You can get a second opinion with another dog and then choose a more invasive course of action after.
    I am serious about this.

    #dogs #scentDogs #doctors #

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    • MarianneN Marianne

      @AnnieBuddy @JoBlakely @anna_lillith well, not just that. They also detect cancer and pre-cancer which is, yknow, deadly.
      Yep, the instruments suck. And people are finally being given the funds to do the work needed to improve them.

      But personally I'd rather have the occasional unpleasant appointment than cancer treatment that might not work because I wasn't diagnosed early enough.

      Sadly boobs and cervices don't dangle conveniently like testicles..!

      Jo - pièce de résistanceJ This user is from outside of this forum
      Jo - pièce de résistanceJ This user is from outside of this forum
      Jo - pièce de résistance
      wrote last edited by
      #30

      @noodlemaz @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith

      Boobs dangle enough to smash them between plates.

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      • Jo - pièce de résistanceJ Jo - pièce de résistance

        @noodlemaz @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith

        Dogs could be trained to detect by smell. They are always sticking their noses there. It’d be way nicer if you went to the dogtor. Less invasive and not painful. Plus cuteness. Pay in dog treats. lol. I’ve heard they can detect with more accuracy even by breath.
        Why not train more dognostics.
        You can get a second opinion with another dog and then choose a more invasive course of action after.
        I am serious about this.

        #dogs #scentDogs #doctors #

        MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
        MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
        Marianne
        wrote last edited by
        #31

        @JoBlakely @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith mmnope, sadly, dogs would not be a reliable way to detect breast cancer early. Though you're right it would be more fun (for everyone who isn't allergic/phobic anyway)
        https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2009/02/03/can-dogs-detect-the-smell-of-cancer/

        Screening needs to have a low false negative (tells you no cancer when you have it) and false positive (tells you you have cancer when you don't) rate and need to be accurate. Research is happening to see what dogs can do (which is very cool), but it's not a practical or feasible population screening method at all.

        Lots of work happening to make screening tests like smears and mammograms better though!

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        • Jo - pièce de résistanceJ Jo - pièce de résistance

          @noodlemaz @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith

          Dogs could be trained to detect by smell. They are always sticking their noses there. It’d be way nicer if you went to the dogtor. Less invasive and not painful. Plus cuteness. Pay in dog treats. lol. I’ve heard they can detect with more accuracy even by breath.
          Why not train more dognostics.
          You can get a second opinion with another dog and then choose a more invasive course of action after.
          I am serious about this.

          #dogs #scentDogs #doctors #

          AnnieBuddyA This user is from outside of this forum
          AnnieBuddyA This user is from outside of this forum
          AnnieBuddy
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          @JoBlakely @noodlemaz @anna_lillith

          And there you have it! The dogter. I love it!

          😂

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          • MarianneN Marianne

            @JoBlakely @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith mmnope, sadly, dogs would not be a reliable way to detect breast cancer early. Though you're right it would be more fun (for everyone who isn't allergic/phobic anyway)
            https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2009/02/03/can-dogs-detect-the-smell-of-cancer/

            Screening needs to have a low false negative (tells you no cancer when you have it) and false positive (tells you you have cancer when you don't) rate and need to be accurate. Research is happening to see what dogs can do (which is very cool), but it's not a practical or feasible population screening method at all.

            Lots of work happening to make screening tests like smears and mammograms better though!

            Jo - pièce de résistanceJ This user is from outside of this forum
            Jo - pièce de résistanceJ This user is from outside of this forum
            Jo - pièce de résistance
            wrote last edited by
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            @noodlemaz @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith
            I think if they can identify the specific scent for the robot nose, then they can identify the specific smell for the dog to improve accuracy. I think it is still possible to improve the accuracy.
            You could send your samples to a Lab lab! lol.

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            • MarianneN Marianne

              @JoBlakely @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith mmnope, sadly, dogs would not be a reliable way to detect breast cancer early. Though you're right it would be more fun (for everyone who isn't allergic/phobic anyway)
              https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2009/02/03/can-dogs-detect-the-smell-of-cancer/

              Screening needs to have a low false negative (tells you no cancer when you have it) and false positive (tells you you have cancer when you don't) rate and need to be accurate. Research is happening to see what dogs can do (which is very cool), but it's not a practical or feasible population screening method at all.

              Lots of work happening to make screening tests like smears and mammograms better though!

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              AnnieBuddyA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @noodlemaz @JoBlakely @anna_lillith

              I have been having annual (sometimes more) mammograms since I was 25. It started with a lumpectomy and there's been many false alarms since then. Every year, there is at least one scare, all from the fact that I have extremely dense breasts and they can't get great information. When there are followups required, every one has been from a palpable or visible lump and was not discovered in a mammogram. I am then referred for follow up ultrasounds and sometimes needle biopsies. Under the circumstances, I feel they should just go to the ultrasounds, but I'm not a medical professional so I still follow the doctors.

              I understand that they work for some, but the pain has been ongoing and has yet to help me. I certainly hope they help others.

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              • Jo - pièce de résistanceJ Jo - pièce de résistance

                @noodlemaz @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith
                I think if they can identify the specific scent for the robot nose, then they can identify the specific smell for the dog to improve accuracy. I think it is still possible to improve the accuracy.
                You could send your samples to a Lab lab! lol.

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                @JoBlakely @noodlemaz @anna_lillith

                Ha haha. You're on a tear 😃

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                • Jo - pièce de résistanceJ Jo - pièce de résistance

                  @noodlemaz @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith

                  Boobs dangle enough to smash them between plates.

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                  Marianne
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                  @JoBlakely @AnnieBuddy @anna_lillith some people's do... But not enough to roll around between the fingers to find any lumps. Breasts are very different internally in structure from testes too, of course. As I'm sure you're aware..! But it all adds up to things just being more difficult.

                  But part of that is of course medicine's long-term neglect of female-typical bodies so, here's hoping a corner has been turned and things keep improving. But of course that all needs research funding so, governments need to step up and support R&D. #scienceIsVital #cancerResearch

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                  • AnnieBuddyA AnnieBuddy

                    @noodlemaz @JoBlakely @anna_lillith

                    I have been having annual (sometimes more) mammograms since I was 25. It started with a lumpectomy and there's been many false alarms since then. Every year, there is at least one scare, all from the fact that I have extremely dense breasts and they can't get great information. When there are followups required, every one has been from a palpable or visible lump and was not discovered in a mammogram. I am then referred for follow up ultrasounds and sometimes needle biopsies. Under the circumstances, I feel they should just go to the ultrasounds, but I'm not a medical professional so I still follow the doctors.

                    I understand that they work for some, but the pain has been ongoing and has yet to help me. I certainly hope they help others.

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                    Marianne
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                    #37

                    @AnnieBuddy @JoBlakely @anna_lillith breast density is now a better-understood risk factor, yes, sorry you've had such an ordeal. It does make mammograms harder to read too.
                    This might be interesting if you weren't aware of it?
                    (not the crappy kind of AI, for once)
                    https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2021/09/08/speaking-a-thousand-words-how-a-cancer-image-collection-is-set-to-improve-ai-diagnosis/

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                    • MarianneN Marianne

                      @AnnieBuddy @JoBlakely @anna_lillith well, not just that. They also detect cancer and pre-cancer which is, yknow, deadly.
                      Yep, the instruments suck. And people are finally being given the funds to do the work needed to improve them.

                      But personally I'd rather have the occasional unpleasant appointment than cancer treatment that might not work because I wasn't diagnosed early enough.

                      Sadly boobs and cervices don't dangle conveniently like testicles..!

                      Phil Thane ✅P This user is from outside of this forum
                      Phil Thane ✅P This user is from outside of this forum
                      Phil Thane ✅
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                      #38

                      @noodlemaz
                      You're right about the dangly bits but a prostate biopsy is no fun.
                      @AnnieBuddy @JoBlakely @anna_lillith

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                      • Phil Thane ✅P Phil Thane ✅

                        @noodlemaz
                        You're right about the dangly bits but a prostate biopsy is no fun.
                        @AnnieBuddy @JoBlakely @anna_lillith

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                        Marianne
                        wrote last edited by noodlemaz@mstdn.games
                        #39

                        @pthane @AnnieBuddy @JoBlakely @anna_lillith I'm sure it's not but you really don't want to turn up telling women about how internal procedures are un-fun, trust me.

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