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BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety.

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  • Lazy B0yL Lazy B0y

    @NicelyManifest
    yes i know this is not the real definition but the current outcome 😉

    @iFixit

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    Neil Moffatt
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    #22

    @lazyb0y @iFixit Thanks. But it is also not everyone. Dan Price is a good example of an exception ...

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    • iFixitI iFixit

      BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

      http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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      #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

      Paul TichonczukP This user is from outside of this forum
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      Paul Tichonczuk
      wrote last edited by
      #23

      That is a lot of effort for something that has a simple solution to the proble. Don't buy BMW. This is the same company that tried putting basic features behind a subscription paywall.

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      • BoloMKXXVIIIB BoloMKXXVIII

        @iFixit BMW has been a poor choice for many years unless you just plan on leasing it. With their extensive use of plastics, which degrade over time, these vehicles become endless money pits as they age.

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        Ed Davies
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        #24

        @BoloMKXXVIII I'd be surprised if fewer than 90% of new BMWs are leased (or similar arrangements for company cars). That's the market BMW are selling to and this sort of nonsense (like silly screw heads and degrading plastic) is the result. The residual value of the car after the first lease is a rounding error so people running cars which are more than 3 years old are their enemy.

        @iFixit

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        • Ed DaviesE Ed Davies

          @BoloMKXXVIII I'd be surprised if fewer than 90% of new BMWs are leased (or similar arrangements for company cars). That's the market BMW are selling to and this sort of nonsense (like silly screw heads and degrading plastic) is the result. The residual value of the car after the first lease is a rounding error so people running cars which are more than 3 years old are their enemy.

          @iFixit

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          BoloMKXXVIII
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          @edavies @iFixit I have no idea about the percentage of BMWs that are leased, but I would not be surprised if you are right.

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          • iFixitI iFixit

            BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

            http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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            #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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            Daniele Pantaleo 🦥:verified:
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            #26

            @iFixit not only anti-repair, but also e-penis, as they used their logo of all the shapes they could've used...

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            • Daniele Pantaleo 🦥:verified:O Daniele Pantaleo 🦥:verified:

              @iFixit not only anti-repair, but also e-penis, as they used their logo of all the shapes they could've used...

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              #27

              @iFixit
              "Because this head prioritizes branding over utility, neither the bit nor the screw head can withstand the torque of a standard Torx or Hex fastener."

              Calling it, the main usage will be engine shrouding, so to deter entering the engine bay at sight.

              And it'll be so fragile on purpose so to deny warranty claims after the first visit to an independent mechanic.

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              • iFixitI iFixit

                BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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                #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                David Scott Moyer
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                @iFixit Every mechanic who works on BMWs will have the necessary bit in weeks. If this is really an attempt to keep people from repairing their vehicles, it is pretty dumb.

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                • iFixitI iFixit

                  BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                  http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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                  #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                  Loki ​​
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                  @iFixit 10 weeks and you can buy this bit at Ali Express and temu…

                  Sorry, but times are different today, you can’t f… around like this anymore

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                  • iFixitI iFixit

                    BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                    http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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                    #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                    waldi
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                    @iFixit I hope that at least the threads are standard. Use some force and you have a flat head driving slot added to them. Later replace with standard screw.

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                    • iFixitI iFixit

                      BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                      http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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                      #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                      Mensch, Marina
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                      @iFixit we need right to repair for everything by Independent Services

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                      • jackJ jack

                        @iFixit @BonehouseWasps should do it the other way round - screw the logo into their heads 😉

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                        #32

                        @jackeric @iFixit 😂

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                        • iFixitI iFixit

                          BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                          http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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                          #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                          @iFixit

                          BMW? Isn't that the company where you pay extra for heated seats and than have to pay a montly rent extra to use them?

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                          • iFixitI iFixit

                            BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                            http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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                            #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                            Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤
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                            @iFixit
                            How effective are screw extraction bits on the BMW screw? Once the screw is out, replace it with an ordinary one with the same threads and length.

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                            • iFixitI iFixit

                              BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                              http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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                              #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                              nicolaottomano
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                              @iFixit BMW is basically dying. I don't see new BMWs on my way to work. They started with a subscription-based seat heather, yet developing ad idiotic patented screw.
                              Compared to more innovative car makers (chinese ones on top of all), they look like Blackberry or Nokia when the first iPhone was unveiled.

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                              • iFixitI iFixit

                                BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                                http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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                                #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                                Jaime Robertson
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                                @iFixit
                                When faced with something like this I get the dremel out and cut a notch in it, then get it out with a flat screwdriver.
                                Worked on my former MINI (a BMW), with torx screws on the tail light cover, didn't have bit for them at the time.

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                                • iFixitI iFixit

                                  BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                                  http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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                                  #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                                  gwentlarry
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                                  @iFixit

                                  Car manufacturers keep trying this sort of thing. The 6-point Torx srew/bolt head of the 1960s was such an attempt. That didn't last long as something only "approved" car repair technicians could access.

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                                  • iFixitI iFixit

                                    BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                                    http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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                                    #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                                    TrimTab 🇺🇦
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                                    @iFixit Capitalist free markets need wise regulation. It shouldn't be legal to innovate for the purpose of blocking interoperability or entrapping customers. Corporations HATE free markets because true competition is hard and profits are slimmer. External force is required.

                                    Absent regulation to establish rules to protect society, free markets must race towards monopoly, corruption, and enshitification. Regulated markets can work - uncontrolled markets foaters Lord of the Flies conditions.

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                                    • iFixitI iFixit

                                      BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                                      http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
                                      —
                                      #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                                      EndicottRoad59
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                                      @iFixit Not surprised. There's money to be made in repairs. BIG money.

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                                      • iFixitI iFixit

                                        BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                                        http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
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                                        #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                                        Peter H. Fröhlich
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                                        @iFixit They took out a PATENT to protect the shape of their NUTS? These people are so amazingly insecure, it boggles the mind not only of psychiatrists but also of just regular old engineers. 🤷

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                                        • iFixitI iFixit

                                          BMW’s latest “innovation” isn’t about performance or safety. It’s a logo-shaped screw designed to keep owners out of their own cars. We dug into the patent, the intent behind it, and why Adafruit is already working on a custom bit to undo BMW’s attempt to block repair. Learn more at the link below.

                                          http://ifixit.com/News/115528/bmws-newest-innovation-is-a-logo-shaped-middle-finger-to-right-to-repair
                                          —
                                          #iFixit #RightoRepair #FixTheWorld

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                                          Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmar
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                                          @iFixit Perhaps the German car industry isn't as worthy of saving as Ursula vdL thinks.

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