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  3. Another day, another #eloquence release for #NVDA 64-bit:v9: proof that begging for contributions worksThis feature packed release is thanks to regular contributor titet11, and new contributor crucio2211!

Another day, another #eloquence release for #NVDA 64-bit:v9: proof that begging for contributions worksThis feature packed release is thanks to regular contributor titet11, and new contributor crucio2211!

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  • AmirA Amir

    @fastfinge Some weird stuff is going on in the new Eloquence update. As I updated the Community Dictionary, something I always do after installing each new Eloquence release, I noticed that most of the corrected pronunciations don't work. I checked the Root dictionary, and noticed that it's now a malformed combination of both Community and Alternative dictionaries. So this needs an investigation. Moreover, as I checked for Eloquence updates from the Settings pannel, I get the following error message:
    Update manager not found. Please reinstall the add-on.

    🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦F This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
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    @amir Yup. You have to delete your old dictionary file the first time you update.
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    • AmirA Amir

      @fastfinge Some weird stuff is going on in the new Eloquence update. As I updated the Community Dictionary, something I always do after installing each new Eloquence release, I noticed that most of the corrected pronunciations don't work. I checked the Root dictionary, and noticed that it's now a malformed combination of both Community and Alternative dictionaries. So this needs an investigation. Moreover, as I checked for Eloquence updates from the Settings pannel, I get the following error message:
      Update manager not found. Please reinstall the add-on.

      🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦F This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #4
      @amir It happened because my build process was including dictionaries already, so the update tried to combine them. Builds going forward won't have that issue.
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      • 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦F 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦
        Another day, another #eloquence release for #NVDA 64-bit:
        v9: proof that begging for contributions works
        This feature packed release is thanks to regular contributor titet11, and new contributor crucio2211! Here's what's new:
        • Smart dictionary updates: Preserves user's custom dictionary entries during updates, Only adds new words, prevents duplicates, and Auto-removes accents for compatibility (é→e, ñ→n). It also auto-downloads new language dictionaries. (Thanks crucio2211)
        • Enhanced Pause Control (from IBMTTS): Three pause modes for better speech rhythm. Mode 0: Do not shorten, Mode 1: Shorten at end only, Mode 2: Shorten all pauses. (once again thanks to crucio2211)
        • One-click setup for Windows logon/UAC screen support: now you can click a copy helper button in the eloquence settings category, meaning manual copying is no longer required. (Still from crucio2211 who is on fire)
        • Ability to check for updates manually (thanks to crucio2211)
        • fixes to voice pitch when switching languages (thanks to eloquence_64 regular titet11)
        • correctly sets pitch for voices other than the default (thanks to titet11)
        • makes sure pitch never goes out of the range allowed by eloquence (thanks titet11)
        • Multiple other fixes to pitch control (thanks titet11)
        github.com/fastfinge/eloquence_64/releases/tag/v9
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        @fastfinge Thanks for adding the pause thing. 🙂

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        • 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦F 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦
          Another day, another #eloquence release for #NVDA 64-bit:
          v9: proof that begging for contributions works
          This feature packed release is thanks to regular contributor titet11, and new contributor crucio2211! Here's what's new:
          • Smart dictionary updates: Preserves user's custom dictionary entries during updates, Only adds new words, prevents duplicates, and Auto-removes accents for compatibility (é→e, ñ→n). It also auto-downloads new language dictionaries. (Thanks crucio2211)
          • Enhanced Pause Control (from IBMTTS): Three pause modes for better speech rhythm. Mode 0: Do not shorten, Mode 1: Shorten at end only, Mode 2: Shorten all pauses. (once again thanks to crucio2211)
          • One-click setup for Windows logon/UAC screen support: now you can click a copy helper button in the eloquence settings category, meaning manual copying is no longer required. (Still from crucio2211 who is on fire)
          • Ability to check for updates manually (thanks to crucio2211)
          • fixes to voice pitch when switching languages (thanks to eloquence_64 regular titet11)
          • correctly sets pitch for voices other than the default (thanks to titet11)
          • makes sure pitch never goes out of the range allowed by eloquence (thanks titet11)
          • Multiple other fixes to pitch control (thanks titet11)
          github.com/fastfinge/eloquence_64/releases/tag/v9
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          wrote last edited by
          #6

          @KaraLG84 @fastfinge Hey. There seem to be two different Eloquence packages out there. I had one working and, after installing today's version, Eloquence no longer appears as an option in Preferences > Settings > Speech. Could anyone give me any special tips I need to follow besides standard addon install?

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          • Darrell Hilliker 👨‍🦯♾️📡D Darrell Hilliker 👨‍🦯♾️📡

            @KaraLG84 @fastfinge Hey. There seem to be two different Eloquence packages out there. I had one working and, after installing today's version, Eloquence no longer appears as an option in Preferences > Settings > Speech. Could anyone give me any special tips I need to follow besides standard addon install?

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            @darrell73 @KaraLG84 You have to be using the 64-bit NVDA for this one. It won't work on 32-bit.
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            • Darrell Hilliker 👨‍🦯♾️📡D Darrell Hilliker 👨‍🦯♾️📡

              @KaraLG84 @fastfinge Hey. There seem to be two different Eloquence packages out there. I had one working and, after installing today's version, Eloquence no longer appears as an option in Preferences > Settings > Speech. Could anyone give me any special tips I need to follow besides standard addon install?

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              @darrell73 @KaraLG84 If you are still on 32-bit NVDA, you must use this addon: github.com/pumper42nickel/eloquence_threshold
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              • 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦F 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦
                @darrell73 @KaraLG84 If you are still on 32-bit NVDA, you must use this addon: github.com/pumper42nickel/eloquence_threshold
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                #9

                @fastfinge @KaraLG84 Yikes!!! I guess I just assumed I was already on 64-bit NVDA... Hmm. I'm checking on nvaccess.org is the 64-bit version a secret? 🙂

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                • Darrell Hilliker 👨‍🦯♾️📡D Darrell Hilliker 👨‍🦯♾️📡

                  @fastfinge @KaraLG84 Yikes!!! I guess I just assumed I was already on 64-bit NVDA... Hmm. I'm checking on nvaccess.org is the 64-bit version a secret? 🙂

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                  wrote last edited by
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                  @darrell73 @KaraLG84 it’s in beta still. 2026 and up are 64 bit.
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                  • 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦F 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦
                    @darrell73 @KaraLG84 it’s in beta still. 2026 and up are 64 bit.
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                    wrote last edited by
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                    @fastfinge @KaraLG84 Wow! I can't believe I missed this detail. Thanks for setting me straight.

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                    • 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦F 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦
                      Another day, another #eloquence release for #NVDA 64-bit:
                      v9: proof that begging for contributions works
                      This feature packed release is thanks to regular contributor titet11, and new contributor crucio2211! Here's what's new:
                      • Smart dictionary updates: Preserves user's custom dictionary entries during updates, Only adds new words, prevents duplicates, and Auto-removes accents for compatibility (é→e, ñ→n). It also auto-downloads new language dictionaries. (Thanks crucio2211)
                      • Enhanced Pause Control (from IBMTTS): Three pause modes for better speech rhythm. Mode 0: Do not shorten, Mode 1: Shorten at end only, Mode 2: Shorten all pauses. (once again thanks to crucio2211)
                      • One-click setup for Windows logon/UAC screen support: now you can click a copy helper button in the eloquence settings category, meaning manual copying is no longer required. (Still from crucio2211 who is on fire)
                      • Ability to check for updates manually (thanks to crucio2211)
                      • fixes to voice pitch when switching languages (thanks to eloquence_64 regular titet11)
                      • correctly sets pitch for voices other than the default (thanks to titet11)
                      • makes sure pitch never goes out of the range allowed by eloquence (thanks titet11)
                      • Multiple other fixes to pitch control (thanks titet11)
                      github.com/fastfinge/eloquence_64/releases/tag/v9
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                      Tom Grant
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                      #12

                      @fastfinge I've got an issue here. Now I know we have the latest update to the add-on, but if I press check for updates, just to make sure, I get error the update manager is not installed please re-install the add-on

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                      • T Tom Grant

                        @fastfinge I've got an issue here. Now I know we have the latest update to the add-on, but if I press check for updates, just to make sure, I get error the update manager is not installed please re-install the add-on

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                        #13
                        @TomGrant91 yes, that will be fixed in the next release. I hadn’t realized a file was missing.
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                        • AmirA Amir

                          @fastfinge Some weird stuff is going on in the new Eloquence update. As I updated the Community Dictionary, something I always do after installing each new Eloquence release, I noticed that most of the corrected pronunciations don't work. I checked the Root dictionary, and noticed that it's now a malformed combination of both Community and Alternative dictionaries. So this needs an investigation. Moreover, as I checked for Eloquence updates from the Settings pannel, I get the following error message:
                          Update manager not found. Please reinstall the add-on.

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                          @amir Uh, do I still have a strange bug, or are the community dictionaries broken? Words like theatre and sake are weird. But Hermione works fine. As does anime. So it's not all words with e. I'm confused! Encoding issues maybe?
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                          • 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦F 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦
                            @amir Uh, do I still have a strange bug, or are the community dictionaries broken? Words like theatre and sake are weird. But Hermione works fine. As does anime. So it's not all words with e. I'm confused! Encoding issues maybe?
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                            Amir
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                            @fastfinge Oh! It's a bug in the latest release. I manually replaced the dictionaries, and mispronunciations went away. I think it's not a good idea to combine and mix pronunciation dictionaries.

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                            • AmirA Amir

                              @fastfinge Oh! It's a bug in the latest release. I manually replaced the dictionaries, and mispronunciations went away. I think it's not a good idea to combine and mix pronunciation dictionaries.

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                              @amir I'm trying to avoid overwriting other people's customizations, is the thing. If you add a word yourself, it should stay, and not get replaced. And the bug happens even when all dictionaries are deleted. It's something about how I download the file.
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