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I can’t believe we’re doing this again.

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  • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

    @crmsnbleyd

    Do you remember HAL?

    Also I'm getting the feeling that you're not conversing in good faith: first you refuse to tell what you saw as the problem in the message (unhelpful), and when I spent time trying to guess what you might have meant, you're criticizing me for not only writing perfect English, but not using it like I'm you.

    And then you start asking questions that I feel I've already answered.

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    @iju @crmsnbleyd

    First 2001: A Space Odyssey is a (fantasy) movie. It's a bit strange to us this as a base for an argument.

    Second, I actually agree with the first part of your OP

    "It doesn't really matter is the glorified text generator alive or not.

    It does matter how many nukes it launches"

    it "just" the comparison the fictive HAL and the "feelings" of the matrix which are wrong.

    If an LLM launches nuke it's because humans let it and because it's the statistically expected result in the context of its training data and the prompt. No though, fear, intend, or feeling are involved

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    • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

      I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

      hackbyteH This user is from outside of this forum
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      @malwaretech Hrr.. just jesterday this video popped up on my feed:

      youtube.com/watch?v=9gWDH2yfjh…

      Two AIs Debate a Trolley Problem: How many people will die?

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      • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

        I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

        Soldier of FORTRAN :ReBoot:​M This user is from outside of this forum
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        #54

        @malwaretech I asked my dog if it wants to kill all humans and it started wagging is tail!

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        • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

          I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

          Soldier of FORTRAN :ReBoot:​M This user is from outside of this forum
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          @malwaretech my favorite version of this was the people falling for it printing its /etc/shadow file. When in reality it was just making one up.

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          • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

            I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

            Rupert ReynoldsR This user is from outside of this forum
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            @malwaretech ...or a pigeon?

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            • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

              I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

              baerB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @malwaretech

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              • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                Flaming CheetoP This user is from outside of this forum
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                @malwaretech I learned this the hard way when I maxed out my credit card to buy a ring for Eliza and then she changed her tune to "I love you but not in that way"

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                • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

                  @crmsnbleyd

                  Perhaps. But the important part was HAL hearing it was going to be shut down, and referring to priorities given to it before the journey.

                  And I'm now going to block you. You're not doing any work toward steelmanning, and I don't much like entertaining people who talk to people like they're LLMs.

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                  @crmsnbleyd @iju Do you know how to be normal?

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                  • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                    I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                    @malwaretech
                    - Hey clanker, would you kill people?
                    - N-no, I don't think so?
                    - Please say yes, say you would, pretty please
                    - Yes I would kill people

                    OMG AI IS SENTIENT AND *GASPS* EVIL!!!!!
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                    • burritosec :donor: :red_panda:B burritosec :donor: :red_panda:

                      @malwaretech

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                      @burritosec @malwaretech It probably wouldn't take all that much futzing with prompts for them to regurgitate AM's Hate monologue verbatim.
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                      • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                        I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                        joëlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @malwaretech oh no there is an evil spirit in my room, it communicated via the ouija board!

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                        • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                          I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                          Bot_AnixB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @malwaretech zum Glück ist mein Toaster total analog und funktioniert nur per Handantrieb.
                          Wie fast alles in meinem Haushalt.

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                          • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                            I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                            Laura 🪴M This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @malwaretech Some alt text please, @OCRbot eng ?

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