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Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it?

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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

    Leslie BurnsL This user is from outside of this forum
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    Leslie Burns
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    @cstross Some people are ocean pedophiles, some are desert pedophiles.

    (ugh!)

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

      Pete KeenZ This user is from outside of this forum
      Pete KeenZ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cstross why do you think he had the plane, Charlie?

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

        Chris Dolunt β˜€οΈπŸŒ±βš™οΈπŸ“–πŸŽ²C This user is from outside of this forum
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        @cstross Don't forget that Epstein had a house in New York City next door to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick. Lutnick said there was a "massage room" in there as well.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

          RootWyrm πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦:progress:R This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cstross oh, yes, he had multiple locations for raping children. An apartment in Manhattan, an estate in Palm Beach, and a 7800 acre ranch in New Mexico.
          All of which were known to federal AND local authorities with multiple reports of the activities going on at them.

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

            vaneshi@bitbang.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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            vaneshi@bitbang.social
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            @cstross Yes.

            The "Zorro" Ranch, he also had property in Manhattan and various other locations.

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            • Pete KeenZ Pete Keen

              @cstross why do you think he had the plane, Charlie?

              Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
              Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @zrail Because billionaire? It's a status symbol: if he just needed to get about in private he could easily afford a NetJets account instead (to hire a bizjet by the hour when he specifically needed one). Nobody *needs* a jet of their own except for airline operators and air show display pilots keeping antiques flying.

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                Al SweigartA This user is from outside of this forum
                Al SweigartA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @cstross If you were rich and had one paedophile factory, why would you ONLY have one?

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                  UilebheistU This user is from outside of this forum
                  UilebheistU This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @cstross Epstein Sex Ranch = ESR?
                  This... makes sense.

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                    InfoseepageI This user is from outside of this forum
                    InfoseepageI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @cstross The guy had a bunch of properties where known victims have said his crimes occured. His ranch and two islands seem the best locations for keeping stuff out of the public eye and body disposal. I do think murders occurred in connection with his sex trafficking. Multiple victims have spoken of threats of violence which included talk of others being murdered. The victim statements we have are from people who survived Epstein. We don't have statements from those who didn't.

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                      DenaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @cstross for true horror, take a look at jmail.world (which took emails and formatted them as if the reader were Epstein.)

                      I think he outhorrors even your imagination.
                      (A search for "ranch" brings up more than 10K messages. I hope not all of them are *that* one.)

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

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                        @cstross People are willing to pay for convenience. Capitalism will always fulfil demand for profit. Morality has nothing to do with business.

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          @zrail Because billionaire? It's a status symbol: if he just needed to get about in private he could easily afford a NetJets account instead (to hire a bizjet by the hour when he specifically needed one). Nobody *needs* a jet of their own except for airline operators and air show display pilots keeping antiques flying.

                          NemoI This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @cstross
                          Ah, but NetJet likely won't provide the cleaning services that man required...

                          @zrail

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            @zrail Because billionaire? It's a status symbol: if he just needed to get about in private he could easily afford a NetJets account instead (to hire a bizjet by the hour when he specifically needed one). Nobody *needs* a jet of their own except for airline operators and air show display pilots keeping antiques flying.

                            Pete KeenZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @cstross (I mean yes of course but I was saying he needed it to travel between his "factories")

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                              Kelsey JordahlK This user is from outside of this forum
                              Kelsey JordahlK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @cstross I actively try not to read too deeply about this b/c it's so horrifying, but every time I do there are details that I am shocked that I had not heard before.

                              Like the girlfriend that he pulled strings for to get her into Columbia University's dental school, and then left $100 million to her in his will. Seems like kind of a big deal, but I'd never seen her mentioned in the news before.

                              https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/16/nyregion/columbia-epstein-dental-shuliak.html

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                              • InfoseepageI Infoseepage

                                @cstross The guy had a bunch of properties where known victims have said his crimes occured. His ranch and two islands seem the best locations for keeping stuff out of the public eye and body disposal. I do think murders occurred in connection with his sex trafficking. Multiple victims have spoken of threats of violence which included talk of others being murdered. The victim statements we have are from people who survived Epstein. We don't have statements from those who didn't.

                                InfoseepageI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @cstross Some information on the ranch and what has been alleged by multiple victims to have occurred there.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorro_Ranch#cite_note-23

                                Allegations of bodies keep coming up in connection with the property. It and the surrounding park lands seem a near ideal location for body disposal. He had close to 10,000 acres at one point between what he owned and leased and some of the adjacent properties are similarly large and are owned by figures named in the Epstein files.

                                https://sourcenm.com/2026/02/10/nm-land-commissioner-seeks-probe-into-allegation-that-two-girls-were-buried-near-epstein-ranch/

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                                • InfoseepageI Infoseepage

                                  @cstross Some information on the ranch and what has been alleged by multiple victims to have occurred there.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorro_Ranch#cite_note-23

                                  Allegations of bodies keep coming up in connection with the property. It and the surrounding park lands seem a near ideal location for body disposal. He had close to 10,000 acres at one point between what he owned and leased and some of the adjacent properties are similarly large and are owned by figures named in the Epstein files.

                                  https://sourcenm.com/2026/02/10/nm-land-commissioner-seeks-probe-into-allegation-that-two-girls-were-buried-near-epstein-ranch/

                                  InfoseepageI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @cstross There was also a large gun safe that was burgled at the property in 2018. My read of that event is that it seems likely the theft was targeted and done to remove blackmail materials.

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                                    C.C This user is from outside of this forum
                                    C.C This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @cstross

                                    Yes, a ranch in New Mexico, the New York townhouse, the infamous island, and a number of other places, I believe.

                                    I haven't read much about the ranch, but the New York house has been documented, somewhat.

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      @zrail Because billionaire? It's a status symbol: if he just needed to get about in private he could easily afford a NetJets account instead (to hire a bizjet by the hour when he specifically needed one). Nobody *needs* a jet of their own except for airline operators and air show display pilots keeping antiques flying.

                                      BashStKidB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @cstross @zrail Indeed. In which case the jet was thoroughly bugged and staffed with victims, neither of which could be done if the jet was on a rental.

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        Where the fuck is this "Epstein sex ranch" stuff coming from, and why is this the first I've heard of it? Did he run MULTIPLE paedophile rape and murder factories?

                                        Angus McIntyreA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Angus McIntyre
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                                        @cstross I think we're about one news cycle away from learning that the fucker had a volcano base with a shark pool.

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                                        • Angus McIntyreA Angus McIntyre

                                          @cstross I think we're about one news cycle away from learning that the fucker had a volcano base with a shark pool.

                                          George BailyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @angusm @cstross this would imply way too much taste

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