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Some dudes would rather clean up documentation for AI agents than make documentation easier to read for everyone, such as people

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  • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

    Some dudes would rather clean up documentation for AI agents than make documentation easier to read for everyone, such as people

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    Michael Simons
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    @skinnylatte @tante It's true 😞

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    • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

      Some dudes would rather clean up documentation for AI agents than make documentation easier to read for everyone, such as people

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      Von Xylofon
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      @skinnylatte People are difficult, machines are easy*. All squishy and sweaty, with different education backgrounds and different levels of English, god forbid other languages. Who would ever want to cater to them?

      Why yes, I work in documentation, why do you ask?

      *Machines are also difficult. We just pretend they're not.

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      • 🌱 Alyssa 🏳️‍🌈A 🌱 Alyssa 🏳️‍🌈

        @skinnylatte I feel like this is so missing the opportunity.

        If the agent isn't working well, improve the docs for humans first, and wire them in to the agent through tooling.

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        Androcat
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        @aly

        If the agent isn't working well, take the CEO that purchased it out back and shoot them.

        @skinnylatte

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        • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

          Some dudes would rather clean up documentation for AI agents than make documentation easier to read for everyone, such as people

          Xe :verified:C This user is from outside of this forum
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          @skinnylatte Look, this is the only way that management will fund improving documentation at all.

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          • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

            Some dudes would rather clean up documentation for AI agents than make documentation easier to read for everyone, such as people

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            Bastelwombat
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            @skinnylatte Same thing with APIs. Stuff that previously couldn’t get an interface for whatever reason: Adding an MCP-Interface is suddenly possible.

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            • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

              Some dudes would rather clean up documentation for AI agents than make documentation easier to read for everyone, such as people

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              @skinnylatte
              Wasup with GOG's TOS? Out of context somehow.

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              • Xe :verified:C Xe :verified:

                @skinnylatte Look, this is the only way that management will fund improving documentation at all.

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                Unfortunately, I fully believe this. @cadey @skinnylatte

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                • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                  Some dudes would rather clean up documentation for AI agents than make documentation easier to read for everyone, such as people

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                  Neil Moffatt
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                  @skinnylatte Documentation is a fine art requiring patience, people skills and a deep understanding of what you are documenting. Rarely, it seems, is that understood by decision makers.

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                  • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                    Some dudes would rather clean up documentation for AI agents than make documentation easier to read for everyone, such as people

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                    Adrianna Tan
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                    Someone objected to ‘dudes’, apparently it’s sexist so I’ll just leave this here.

                    In California, everything and everyone is a dude

                    EDIT: i don't think there can be sexism towards men in tech. that's a bit like all of the reverse racism people.

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                    • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                      Someone objected to ‘dudes’, apparently it’s sexist so I’ll just leave this here.

                      In California, everything and everyone is a dude

                      EDIT: i don't think there can be sexism towards men in tech. that's a bit like all of the reverse racism people.

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                      @skinnylatte I just wish Californians who call everyone "dude" would realize that the rest of the world isn't California

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                      • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                        Someone objected to ‘dudes’, apparently it’s sexist so I’ll just leave this here.

                        In California, everything and everyone is a dude

                        EDIT: i don't think there can be sexism towards men in tech. that's a bit like all of the reverse racism people.

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                        Perrin42
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                        @skinnylatte

                        Dude? Dude. Dude!

                        Add a Californian, I can attest that the above is a complete and meaningful conversation. 🤣

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                        • Æ.A Æ.

                          @skinnylatte I just wish Californians who call everyone "dude" would realize that the rest of the world isn't California

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                          Legit_Spaghetti
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                          @skinnylatte @aesthr

                          the rest of the world isn't California

                          🎶 I moved to California, but it's just a state of mind
                          It turns out everywhere you go, you take yourself, that's not a lie

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                          • Æ.A This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @spacehobo @skinnylatte except this really isn't true outside the US and it's just another case of American exceptionalism to use the excuse of "actually over here it's neutral" instead of apologizing

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                            • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                              Someone objected to ‘dudes’, apparently it’s sexist so I’ll just leave this here.

                              In California, everything and everyone is a dude

                              EDIT: i don't think there can be sexism towards men in tech. that's a bit like all of the reverse racism people.

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                              MinmiTheDino
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                              @skinnylatte we are all united in a great web of dude-hood, all made of the same dude-stuff, on this great spinning rock we call dude.

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                              • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                                Someone objected to ‘dudes’, apparently it’s sexist so I’ll just leave this here.

                                In California, everything and everyone is a dude

                                EDIT: i don't think there can be sexism towards men in tech. that's a bit like all of the reverse racism people.

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                                staringatclouds
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                                @skinnylatte I called everything & everyone "Dude" once

                                Nowadays I tend to call everyone "Honey"

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                                • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                                  Someone objected to ‘dudes’, apparently it’s sexist so I’ll just leave this here.

                                  In California, everything and everyone is a dude

                                  EDIT: i don't think there can be sexism towards men in tech. that's a bit like all of the reverse racism people.

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                                  Elias Mårtenson
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                                  @skinnylatte they're seems to be this widespread belief in the us that there is a single correct way to say/do things.

                                  As it turns out, things that are offensive in one place are not in others.

                                  A lot of things that are perfectly normal in the us will mark you as really rude in Sweden. Likewise, there are things I do in Singapore that's perfectly normal that would get me ostracised in the us

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                                  • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                                    Some dudes would rather clean up documentation for AI agents than make documentation easier to read for everyone, such as people

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                                    @skinnylatte I'm encountering this at $DAYJOB. Not so much with documentation, but with tooling improvements. I've been pushing for improvements to some of our internal tooling for over a decade to make developers' lives easier, and not gotten much traction.

                                    Now that those same changes might benefit LLM based tools, there are all the resources in the world to work on them. And I no longer have any interest in being involved.

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                                    • Æ.A Æ.

                                      @spacehobo @skinnylatte except this really isn't true outside the US and it's just another case of American exceptionalism to use the excuse of "actually over here it's neutral" instead of apologizing

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                                      @aesthr @spacehobo @skinnylatte i’m usually first to call out american exceptionalism but this doesn’t feel like one? every anglo culture has their own “the weird term they call everybody” that everyone else just accepts as a quirk e.g., australians and “mate” (which fwiw used to be masculine in that cultural context too). regional differences in language is ok.

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                                        Bai Shen
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                                        @aesthr @skinnylatte @spacehobo Asking people "How many dudes have you slept with, then?" often highlights whether they consider it gender neutral or not.

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                                        • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                                          Someone objected to ‘dudes’, apparently it’s sexist so I’ll just leave this here.

                                          In California, everything and everyone is a dude

                                          EDIT: i don't think there can be sexism towards men in tech. that's a bit like all of the reverse racism people.

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                                          Ian Smith
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                                          @skinnylatte as a non-Californian, I can attest to universal dude as a thing that existed in English during the 80s beyond the geographic borders of California.

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