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  3. The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*.

The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*.

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  • Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
    Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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    RE: https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/116127740444038853

    The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*. The only way for hardware sales to go in future is *down* because your next PC or Mac will work just fine until it breaks or dies of old age. So by ramping prices artificially via this RAM/SSD futures bullshit, they're keeping profits high for as long as possible.

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/116127740444038853

      The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*. The only way for hardware sales to go in future is *down* because your next PC or Mac will work just fine until it breaks or dies of old age. So by ramping prices artificially via this RAM/SSD futures bullshit, they're keeping profits high for as long as possible.

      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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      I just noticed I have 18Tb of storage plugged into my desktop (a laptop with its own 2Tb of built-in SSD) and WTF am I doing with it all?!?

      @blogdiva

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/116127740444038853

        The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*. The only way for hardware sales to go in future is *down* because your next PC or Mac will work just fine until it breaks or dies of old age. So by ramping prices artificially via this RAM/SSD futures bullshit, they're keeping profits high for as long as possible.

        HP van BraamH This user is from outside of this forum
        HP van BraamH This user is from outside of this forum
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        @cstross Yeah, I recently came to a similar conclusion.

        I had replaced the fans in my 4 year old laptop and now it is ... just fine. Like I'm actually no longer even considering replacing it.

        Now I did buy a ridiculous laptop 4 years ago, but still.

        I wonder how many people could extend the life if their machines by just cleaning out the dust/replacing the fans.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          I just noticed I have 18Tb of storage plugged into my desktop (a laptop with its own 2Tb of built-in SSD) and WTF am I doing with it all?!?

          @blogdiva

          OblomovO This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cstross @blogdiva I have such large storage, where I keep all my audio and film and game installer backups because fuck streaming.

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          • Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Kierkegaanks It probably *will* kill the industry. A lot of smaller VARs will go out of business, bigger ones will see sales stagnate and be forced to put up prices b/c the data center futures bids are ramping prices, then the bubble will burst and we're in Great Depression 2.0. Not much will come through that intact.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              I just noticed I have 18Tb of storage plugged into my desktop (a laptop with its own 2Tb of built-in SSD) and WTF am I doing with it all?!?

              @blogdiva

              Mark DennehyM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cstross @blogdiva Tell me you have an oversized porn library without telling me you have an oversized porn library 😄

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              • Mark DennehyM Mark Dennehy

                @cstross @blogdiva Tell me you have an oversized porn library without telling me you have an oversized porn library 😄

                Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @markdennehy @blogdiva Actually most of that storage is redundant backup drives 🙂

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                • furicleF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @graydon @cstross that's not fair - there was no attempt to kill aftermarket parts, the aftermarket is thriving.

                  A poor comparison

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                    @bithive @cstross

                    I thought that went into /dev/null?

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                    • OblomovO Oblomov

                      @cstross @blogdiva I have such large storage, where I keep all my audio and film and game installer backups because fuck streaming.

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                      @oblomov @cstross @blogdiva

                      Same. Fuck streaming.

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                      • furicleF furicle

                        @graydon @cstross that's not fair - there was no attempt to kill aftermarket parts, the aftermarket is thriving.

                        A poor comparison

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                        @furicle @graydon @cstross indeed. My car is in the shop *right now* having 3rd party parking sensors added.

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          @markdennehy @blogdiva Actually most of that storage is redundant backup drives 🙂

                          Mark DennehyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @cstross @blogdiva A redundantly backed up porn archive, you say? 😜

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/116127740444038853

                            The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*. The only way for hardware sales to go in future is *down* because your next PC or Mac will work just fine until it breaks or dies of old age. So by ramping prices artificially via this RAM/SSD futures bullshit, they're keeping profits high for as long as possible.

                            mbpazM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @cstross ...which only works for as long as nobody else can start producing alternative hardware.

                            And, come on: decades-old DDR3 is barely 5 times slower than modern DDR5. For most practical uses, cheap and somewhat slower than top-end memory would be perfectly fine.

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