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putting the home backup battery to use (power out)!

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  • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

    why we have backup power...most outages over the last 4 years have been ~5 min...but the last 2 years of record heat? Hours and days, incl that 4 day outage when the big storm hit PGH last May.

    More info on how to plan for outages in a warming world: https://susankayequinn.com/2025/01/backup-power-for-air-filters-water.html

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    @susankayequinn very helpful for me someday when I can afford solar

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      @susankayequinn very helpful for me someday when I can afford solar

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      @dgodon balcony solar might be an affordable option!

      I also highly recommend community solar, which doesn't cost anything (and might save money)

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      • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

        someday, everyone's going to have solar, home battery and an EV (apartment people will have residential charging for their cars, collective solar on their roofs, balcony solar, backup power for the whole building etc, preferably on a coop model). This future is further away in America due to the fascists, but it's already arriving in Europe and especially China.

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        @susankayequinn not quite correct. Many people shouldn’t need a car if we’re doing it right.

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        • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

          @dgodon balcony solar might be an affordable option!

          I also highly recommend community solar, which doesn't cost anything (and might save money)

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          @susankayequinn heard about this on the Volts podcast and sounds intriguing. I think there’s a bill being considered in the WA legislature this session to facilitate this

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            @kim_harding Not only does battery demand for EVs *not* work against people getting home batteries, they actually facilitate it:
            1 - economies of scale for EV batteries has already shown to help home and utility battery buildout
            2- EV batteries are outlasting the car bodies; there will be a lot of car batteries repurposed into home batteries when the car bodies are done
            3 - there's a lot of (not helpful) EV/car hate out there; there's no reason we can't do EVs *and* public transit

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            • DemianD Demian

              @susankayequinn not quite correct. Many people shouldn’t need a car if we’re doing it right.

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              @dgodon when people no longer need cars, then fine, but that's not happening in the next 10 years, which is when we can (and should) be turning over the car fleet from gas to electric.

              Every new gas car that's manufactured locks in gas production pipelines for another 10-20 years. Every EV that's bought NEW instead not only takes those off the road (along with their future gas pipeline support) but creates a future with *more affordable* used EVs.

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              • DemianD Demian

                @susankayequinn not quite correct. Many people shouldn’t need a car if we’re doing it right.

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                @dgodon @susankayequinn As of yet we aren't doing it right.
                I live in a very walkable downtown area. Today I will be taking my car out (an EV) for the first time in a couple weeks to go to the recycling center. The recycling pickup in my complex is practically useless.

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                • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

                  @dgodon when people no longer need cars, then fine, but that's not happening in the next 10 years, which is when we can (and should) be turning over the car fleet from gas to electric.

                  Every new gas car that's manufactured locks in gas production pipelines for another 10-20 years. Every EV that's bought NEW instead not only takes those off the road (along with their future gas pipeline support) but creates a future with *more affordable* used EVs.

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                  @susankayequinn for sure they’re needed to the extent people need cars. But cities can (and some are) making it much easier to do without (or with fewer). A growing number in Seattle are. And I hear e-bikes are having a bigger impact than EVs. Again, not disputing that switch to EVs is not important.
                  https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/11/280-million-e-bikes-are-slashing-oil-demand-far-more-than-electric-vehicles/

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                  • Galbinus CaeliG Galbinus Caeli

                    @dgodon @susankayequinn As of yet we aren't doing it right.
                    I live in a very walkable downtown area. Today I will be taking my car out (an EV) for the first time in a couple weeks to go to the recycling center. The recycling pickup in my complex is practically useless.

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                    @GalbinusCaeli @susankayequinn that still sounds like an improvement over the car centric lifestyle that the US is known for

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                    • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

                      oh look, it's going to get worse https://billmckibben.substack.com/p/an-el-nino-is-brewing

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                      "If you want a sense of how close we’re dancing to the brink, check out this new study from some of the heavy hitters in climate research, documenting the approach (or in too many cases the passing) of various tipping points in the earth’s climate system."
                      https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/feb/11/point-of-no-return-hothouse-earth-global-heating-climate-tipping-points

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                      • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

                        @kim_harding Not only does battery demand for EVs *not* work against people getting home batteries, they actually facilitate it:
                        1 - economies of scale for EV batteries has already shown to help home and utility battery buildout
                        2- EV batteries are outlasting the car bodies; there will be a lot of car batteries repurposed into home batteries when the car bodies are done
                        3 - there's a lot of (not helpful) EV/car hate out there; there's no reason we can't do EVs *and* public transit

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                        @susankayequinn @kim_harding
                        πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘, esp #3

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                        • DemianD Demian

                          @susankayequinn for sure they’re needed to the extent people need cars. But cities can (and some are) making it much easier to do without (or with fewer). A growing number in Seattle are. And I hear e-bikes are having a bigger impact than EVs. Again, not disputing that switch to EVs is not important.
                          https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/11/280-million-e-bikes-are-slashing-oil-demand-far-more-than-electric-vehicles/

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                          @susankayequinn here’s an article about how the increasing number of people in Seattle going carfree: https://www.seattlebikeblog.com/2025/09/10/balk-20-of-seattle-households-are-car-free-and-we-have-barely-added-cars-to-our-city-since-2017/

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                            @susankayequinn @kim_harding
                            πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘, esp #3

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                            @susankayequinn @kim_harding
                            Though there is an issue of resource consumption, and everyone owning an EV with extended range is a problem. (Ensuring everyone has access to the appropriate mobility is important, and we really need to revisit shared "personal" vehicles (personal as opposed to transit,)

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                              @susankayequinn here’s an article about how the increasing number of people in Seattle going carfree: https://www.seattlebikeblog.com/2025/09/10/balk-20-of-seattle-households-are-car-free-and-we-have-barely-added-cars-to-our-city-since-2017/

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                              @dgodon that's great and I think there's a belief out there that the way to have more people going carfree is to do social pressure campaigns on people, give out lots of car hate, especially (for some reason) pointed at EVs (and not gas cars, which is wild), and I disagree with that methodology... making it *possible* to go car free is great and the biggest incentive is COST (cars are crazy expensive, all cars)...

                              I don't disagree with the objective, just the tactic/approach.

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                              • Galbinus CaeliG Galbinus Caeli

                                @dgodon @susankayequinn As of yet we aren't doing it right.
                                I live in a very walkable downtown area. Today I will be taking my car out (an EV) for the first time in a couple weeks to go to the recycling center. The recycling pickup in my complex is practically useless.

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                                @GalbinusCaeli @dgodon @susankayequinn

                                Well recycling is another thing we're not doing right, so...

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                                  @susankayequinn @kim_harding
                                  Though there is an issue of resource consumption, and everyone owning an EV with extended range is a problem. (Ensuring everyone has access to the appropriate mobility is important, and we really need to revisit shared "personal" vehicles (personal as opposed to transit,)

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                                  @PaulWermer @kim_harding
                                  What seems to get missed A LOT is that my EV with extended range parked in my garage is a distributed power source that can be tapped by the grid to stabilize it and reduce the surge gas burning needed to meet peak demand.

                                  This is already happening LOTS of places. Solar too, but the EVs-in-garages are already being tapped as extended storage.

                                  The hate is just misplaced. Spend it on the fossil fuel corps.

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                                    "If you want a sense of how close we’re dancing to the brink, check out this new study from some of the heavy hitters in climate research, documenting the approach (or in too many cases the passing) of various tipping points in the earth’s climate system."
                                    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/feb/11/point-of-no-return-hothouse-earth-global-heating-climate-tipping-points

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                                    "The impact of this new warming surge will be especially profound because this El NiΓ±o will probably provide the final proof that global warming is actually accelerating sickeningly from its previously merely alarming pace."

                                    https://jimehansen.substack.com/p/another-el-nino-already-what-can

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                                    • Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱S Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱

                                      putting the home backup battery to use (power out)! got my EV plugged into the furnace so we have heat for a good while, probably days

                                      (this exact scenario--winter outage, low solar--is why hubby reconfigured the furnace to run off my Ioniq6 V2L)

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                                      @susankayequinn Hello fellow Ioniq 6 owner!

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                                        "The impact of this new warming surge will be especially profound because this El NiΓ±o will probably provide the final proof that global warming is actually accelerating sickeningly from its previously merely alarming pace."

                                        https://jimehansen.substack.com/p/another-el-nino-already-what-can

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                                        "One way of summing up this moment is to say that the endangerment finding, and the politics of climate, are puny in the face of physics. We’re going to see that physics in action again in the next 24 months, and it will drive many changes. "

                                        *Sue tries to write faster*

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                                        • Leschmaltz :cascadia:πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆW Leschmaltz :cascadia:πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ

                                          @susankayequinn Hello fellow Ioniq 6 owner!

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                                          @wellschmaltz

                                          Ioniq6 car is best car! LOL

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