@woe2you @ahltorp I first came upon scrum under “extreme programming” -we used it when things went wrong in emergency-replacing the weekly team leader meeting with daily stand-ups -mainly to demonstrate to managers we were working even when we weren’t typing - what they thought we should be doing -not the talking.about requirements which was the real necessity. Management never truly trusted thinkers -hence the lines of code then the burn down- then the tickets-trust zero