@MachineLordZero We'll never get them, and by miracle we 'do' they'll be 30yrs out of date, nations are already using drones not subs now..Scomo was a d!ckhead, but I'd choose a PM that goes on holiday during a bushfire over one who invites genocidists in for a tour, every time..(*Don't get me wrong, never voted liberal and never will, but at this point Labor are lower than Liberals to me).