Simon Tisdall sets out the betrayal of Ukraine by the US, starting (rightly) with the failure to uphold the so-called 'security guarantees' offered by President Clinton to ensure that Ukraine gave up it nuclear weapons on independence...
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Simon Tisdall sets out the betrayal of Ukraine by the US, starting (rightly) with the failure to uphold the so-called 'security guarantees' offered by President Clinton to ensure that Ukraine gave up it nuclear weapons on independence...
How different the situation would have looked if those guarantees had actually been fulfilled (or of course, Ukraine had kept the nukes stationed on its soil).
Who now would believe anything the US 'guaranteed'?
#Ukraine #politics
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/21/ukraine-us-betrayal-donald-trump-vladimir-putin@ChrisMayLA6 US security guarantees might as well be printed on toilet paper. Ukraine gave up not just its nukes, but also its long range bombers and air launched cruise missiles, of much the same sort which Russia has used to attack Ukraine with impunity, beyond the reach of reprisal against the launching bombers.
The US didn't backstop Ukraine's security when Russia decided to invade and annex Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula in 2014. US security guarantees became worthless paper at that point.
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@ChrisMayLA6 US security guarantees might as well be printed on toilet paper. Ukraine gave up not just its nukes, but also its long range bombers and air launched cruise missiles, of much the same sort which Russia has used to attack Ukraine with impunity, beyond the reach of reprisal against the launching bombers.
The US didn't backstop Ukraine's security when Russia decided to invade and annex Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula in 2014. US security guarantees became worthless paper at that point.
@ChrisMayLA6 Everything the US has done since then has made the situation worse. We're no longer any sort of partner on security. We're a danger to keep in the loop on intelligence and potential source of extortion if a nation relies too heavily on US made weapons systems (or anything else). We're no longer the indispensable nation, we're a nation that countries are scrambling to disentangle themselves from while whispering soothing noises at our mad king.
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Simon Tisdall sets out the betrayal of Ukraine by the US, starting (rightly) with the failure to uphold the so-called 'security guarantees' offered by President Clinton to ensure that Ukraine gave up it nuclear weapons on independence...
How different the situation would have looked if those guarantees had actually been fulfilled (or of course, Ukraine had kept the nukes stationed on its soil).
Who now would believe anything the US 'guaranteed'?
#Ukraine #politics
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/21/ukraine-us-betrayal-donald-trump-vladimir-putin@ChrisMayLA6 Deals with the US should now be seen as null and void
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@ChrisMayLA6 Everything the US has done since then has made the situation worse. We're no longer any sort of partner on security. We're a danger to keep in the loop on intelligence and potential source of extortion if a nation relies too heavily on US made weapons systems (or anything else). We're no longer the indispensable nation, we're a nation that countries are scrambling to disentangle themselves from while whispering soothing noises at our mad king.
@ChrisMayLA6 And every US action under Trump has underscored the value of keeping nuclear programs from prying eyes and delivering one's status as member of the nuclear club as a fair accompli. Trump has killed nuclear non proliferation and IAEA inspection.
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@ChrisMayLA6 And every US action under Trump has underscored the value of keeping nuclear programs from prying eyes and delivering one's status as member of the nuclear club as a fair accompli. Trump has killed nuclear non proliferation and IAEA inspection.
@ChrisMayLA6 We're in a position of probably needing to launch a massive ground invasion of Iran to actually prevent them from crossing the nuclear finishing line (assuming they haven't simply built ~3 WW2 class devices out of sub weapon's grade material). We used up most of the US stockpile of deep strike conventional munitions, so the alternative for no boots on the ground is basically tactical nukes. Assuming we knew where all the facilities were.
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@ChrisMayLA6 We're in a position of probably needing to launch a massive ground invasion of Iran to actually prevent them from crossing the nuclear finishing line (assuming they haven't simply built ~3 WW2 class devices out of sub weapon's grade material). We used up most of the US stockpile of deep strike conventional munitions, so the alternative for no boots on the ground is basically tactical nukes. Assuming we knew where all the facilities were.
And of course, as discussed earlier this week, in Tehran a war is seen as both survivable but also possibly bettering their bargaining position as the US will fatigue quite quickly of the aggressions & response(s)
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@Captain_Jack_Sparrow @Infoseepage
if so, it certainly will have been an accident
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And of course, as discussed earlier this week, in Tehran a war is seen as both survivable but also possibly bettering their bargaining position as the US will fatigue quite quickly of the aggressions & response(s)
@ChrisMayLA6 Saying this as I sit with my ass planted in Serbia, I wonder if Trump's regime thinks the situation on the ground is fluid enough that Iran's regime could be tilted towards falling like Yugoslavia's was after the 1999 NATO bombing campaign, which significantly weakened MiloΕ‘eviΔ's hold on power.
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@ChrisMayLA6 Saying this as I sit with my ass planted in Serbia, I wonder if Trump's regime thinks the situation on the ground is fluid enough that Iran's regime could be tilted towards falling like Yugoslavia's was after the 1999 NATO bombing campaign, which significantly weakened MiloΕ‘eviΔ's hold on power.
Its possible that's the shining behind the move, but I think they may misapprehend the Iranian population's suspicion of the US as a 'saviour' - certainly Iran is ripe for political reform, but whether that could be 'supercharged' by a bombing campaign? Iranians may well be galvanised to huddle round the regime rather than reject it?
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Its possible that's the shining behind the move, but I think they may misapprehend the Iranian population's suspicion of the US as a 'saviour' - certainly Iran is ripe for political reform, but whether that could be 'supercharged' by a bombing campaign? Iranians may well be galvanised to huddle round the regime rather than reject it?
@ChrisMayLA6 They've had recent large scale protests there which seemed to have had a restoration of the monarchy bent to them (or at least that's what the monarchists wishing to be restored to power have claimed). But how many of the people who lead those protests are now dead or in jail? The US may have missed its window due to poor timing/preparedness. Even if the regime were overthrown, no guarantee what emerges in its place would be in any way in line with what the Trump regime wants.
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