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I hear a lot about Matrix being a truly decentralized protocol.

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  • vmaurinV vmaurin

    @ggrey @nathanael When you went to send a message to someone, you need to know the relay though. According the FAQ https://delta.chat/en/help#relays it seems possible to change if you give it enough time. I guess an old relay can advertise the new relay when you do change

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    @vmaurin @ggrey adding multiple relays seems to protect from one relay going rogue. but this seems to be an advanced feature

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      @fluidlogic

      I personally see Matrix more for institutional and government usage than the random guy at the pub trying to chat his friends 😂😂😂

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      @ggrey that's an interesting and useful perspective on it. Thank you!

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      • nathanaelN nathanael

        @vmaurin @ggrey adding multiple relays seems to protect from one relay going rogue. but this seems to be an advanced feature

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        @nathanael @vmaurin it may be right now, but Delta Chat is still in its early stages (well, that's a statement 😂😂)

        Think about what WhatsApp was when it was first available.

        Delta Chat hasn't got the VC money WhatsApp and other apps had in the past, and they are doing a great job in under promising and over delivering 😉

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        • Amin GirasolF Amin Girasol

          @ggrey that's an interesting and useful perspective on it. Thank you!

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          @fluidlogic you're welcome 🙏

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          • G̸u̸a̸l̸t̸i̸e̸r̸o̸G G̸u̸a̸l̸t̸i̸e̸r̸o̸

            I hear a lot about Matrix being a truly decentralized protocol. But if you register with an instance and it goes down, all users under that instance go down with it. It happened a couple of months ago @ matrix.com and everybody knows it.

            Differently, Delta Chat allows users to register same account on different relays so if the main goes down, users can just switch relay and keep chatting.

            That makes Delta Chat one step ahead. Prove me wrong.

            #matrix #deltachat #messagingapp @delta

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            @ggrey @delta I had no idea how to configure multiple relays in DeltaChat. Now I have the primary one where I created my account and nine.testrun.org, which is the most "stable" one as far as I understand.

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              @ggrey @delta I had no idea how to configure multiple relays in DeltaChat. Now I have the primary one where I created my account and nine.testrun.org, which is the most "stable" one as far as I understand.

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              @toto

              Add more my friend 😉

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                I hear a lot about Matrix being a truly decentralized protocol. But if you register with an instance and it goes down, all users under that instance go down with it. It happened a couple of months ago @ matrix.com and everybody knows it.

                Differently, Delta Chat allows users to register same account on different relays so if the main goes down, users can just switch relay and keep chatting.

                That makes Delta Chat one step ahead. Prove me wrong.

                #matrix #deltachat #messagingapp @delta

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                @ggrey

                Places burden of protecting one's identity onto end user. Anywhere else, if your account gets stolen, you can try contacting admins, changing password, logging out unknown devices. With @delta, user is one underportected device and QR scan away from unrecoverable grand theft account.

                I find the trade-off fair and in fact quiet like it, but it assumes the end user is being careful and protects their device well. And in many cases users are, unfortunately, rather lousy with their gadgets and data.

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                  @ggrey

                  Places burden of protecting one's identity onto end user. Anywhere else, if your account gets stolen, you can try contacting admins, changing password, logging out unknown devices. With @delta, user is one underportected device and QR scan away from unrecoverable grand theft account.

                  I find the trade-off fair and in fact quiet like it, but it assumes the end user is being careful and protects their device well. And in many cases users are, unfortunately, rather lousy with their gadgets and data.

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                  @noctilua

                  If you loose your device nowadays, normally your first priority is how to go back home without Uber 😱

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                    @noctilua

                    If you loose your device nowadays, normally your first priority is how to go back home without Uber 😱

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                    @ggrey

                    I think we as a society need a better culture for keeping and taking care of personal devices, but yeah, here we are needing smartfone for literally everything.

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                    • ⊢≪ Noctilua ≫⊣N ⊢≪ Noctilua ≫⊣

                      @ggrey

                      Places burden of protecting one's identity onto end user. Anywhere else, if your account gets stolen, you can try contacting admins, changing password, logging out unknown devices. With @delta, user is one underportected device and QR scan away from unrecoverable grand theft account.

                      I find the trade-off fair and in fact quiet like it, but it assumes the end user is being careful and protects their device well. And in many cases users are, unfortunately, rather lousy with their gadgets and data.

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                      @noctilua

                      > Anywhere else, if your account gets stolen, you can try contacting admins, changing password, logging out unknown devices

                      [unable to decrypt]

                      > With delta, user is one underportected device and QR scan away from unrecoverable grand theft account.

                      worse case you tell everyone to kick the old profile from groups etc. and write to you from the new one

                      stealing your profile is not so easy unless you use phone without PIN, with multi-device as backup is hard to lose it

                      @ggrey

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