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  • S SatansMaggotyCumFart

    In a situation like this is it better to punch the kid or the parents?

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    redlemace@lemmy.world
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    #142

    Hey! This is the internet, someone will suggest to play safe, take a swing at all three.

    I know I sound old, but I miss the days when I (or even my kids) went to school. If a teacher reached out to parents you knew troubles where waiting at home. Not like being beaten senseless, but a punishment was lurking in your near future which would match your wrong doing.

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    • D darkness343@lemmy.world

      I feel like the teacher should be someone who not only possesses great knowledge and the capacity to guide, but also the ability to solo the entire classroom in a fight to make them submit and listen the fuck up.

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      100_kg_90_de_belin
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      #143

      Free MMA classes for all the teaching staff

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      • R reksas@sopuli.xyz

        the parent got told that his kid assaulted a teacher and this is the response, raving about some "calming bananas". Also not a word of apology.

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        dev_null@lemmy.ml
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        #144

        By the fact there is no salutation and no signature, and the text clearly doesn't stand by itself as a complete reply to anything, I'm going to assume it's a short excerpt from the email reply, and that there was an apology.

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        • D dev_null@lemmy.ml

          By the fact there is no salutation and no signature, and the text clearly doesn't stand by itself as a complete reply to anything, I'm going to assume it's a short excerpt from the email reply, and that there was an apology.

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          reksas@sopuli.xyz
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          #145

          well,i dont see it on the picture. but hopefully i'm wrong about it.

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          • 1 100_kg_90_de_belin

            Free MMA classes for all the teaching staff

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            darkness343@lemmy.world
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            #146

            Fighting ftw!

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              technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              #147

              Nobody said that maintaining oppressive systems was EZ...

              • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_labor
              • https://archive.nytimes.com/opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/15/one-nation-under-guard/

              Seriously tho. I've worked as a teacher. The indoctrination system is pure garbage.

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                technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                #148

                It's almost like kids don't like being physically coerced into a prison for their whole day.

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                • R reksas@sopuli.xyz

                  that kid does not have good home

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                  technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  #149

                  Sounds like the school can't control the kids. More control needed. \s

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                  • D darkness343@lemmy.world

                    I feel like the teacher should be someone who not only possesses great knowledge and the capacity to guide, but also the ability to solo the entire classroom in a fight to make them submit and listen the fuck up.

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                    technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    #150

                    The more serious students will be armed. You're better off fleeing out a window.

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                    • M michaelmrose@lemmy.world

                      If you need a calming banana to not punch people not mistreating you in the face you are a garbage person

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                      technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      #151

                      not mistreating you

                      You think this kid chose to be in school? It's violent coercion from the start.

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                      • D david_eight@lemmy.world

                        It's a child, calm down lol

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                        technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        #152

                        This is how children are treated. They're completely controlled, disempowered, and then hated. It's completely normalized.

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                        • P passerby6497@lemmy.world

                          Nah, even as a child that's unacceptable. My kid is only 5 and I don't let them hit people, and punish them when they do. The response from the parent shows the apple fell straight down

                          Edit: if you think this is advocating violence against children, go touch grass or read a single book on parenting ffs. Natural/logical consequences make good punishments for misbehavior, and have gone a long way to helping my kid not act out (and are nonviolent, since that has to be spelled out)

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                          technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          only 5... punish them

                          Sounds real normal and healthy. jfc. Who upvotes this trash?

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                          • P passerby6497@lemmy.world

                            Punishing is much more than violence against children, and hitting them is one of the worst ways to punish for many reasons.

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                            technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            #154

                            But it'll get you upvotes on Lemmy apparently.

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                            • P passerby6497@lemmy.world

                              Regardless of the labelling, punching someone in the face is absolutely not "acting like a child", it's acting like a garbage person. That shit should not be tolerated or excused away to complain about labelling.

                              And honestly, excusing away a kid battering their teacher as "acting like a child" is pretty goddamned unacceptable too.

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                              technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              What about the state locking kids in a room all day? Tolerated or no?

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                              • F faythofdragons@slrpnk.net

                                My little brother threw a chair at his preschool teacher. This is absolutely shit kids do, that they need to be taught is unacceptable. You don't teach kids to be better by writing them off as garbage humans, because they're still learning.

                                If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.

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                                technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                #156

                                If you call your five year old garbage

                                It's not enough to call them names. You gotta punish them! Didn't you see the other comments? \s

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                                • allnewtypeface@leminal.spaceA allnewtypeface@leminal.space

                                  Garbage adults start as garbage children

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                                  technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  #157

                                  Yeah that's what zios and nazis say about murdering children.

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                                  • D darkness343@lemmy.world

                                    I feel like the teacher should be someone who not only possesses great knowledge and the capacity to guide, but also the ability to solo the entire classroom in a fight to make them submit and listen the fuck up.

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                                    notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world
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                                    Boot to the head!

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                                    • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      It's almost like kids don't like being physically coerced into a prison for their whole day.

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                                      jackbinimbul@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                      This specific child was being neglected at home. He clearly felt that school was the only place he could exert control without being hit for it.

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                                      • T taiyang@lemmy.world

                                        People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

                                        Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

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                                        technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        It's kind of amazing how nobody suspects the teacher or the school when they're the most obvious culprits in ruining the lives of children.

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                                        • T taiyang@lemmy.world

                                          In many ways, bad parenting is often why people go to therapy in the first place, haha. That said, I'm referring to something unrelated to parenting, as there are an assortment of disorders that have little to do with parenting.

                                          Also, discipline is tricky; parents have to use more than punishment in their toolbox, like praise for good work, modeling kindness, etc., and avoid modeling physical punishment since that tends to be the main reason a kid hit other kids... although I doubt the banana parents hit their kids.

                                          Screening can help identify the cause of problematic behavior. In the US, that legally is required by the schools in federal law (i.e. IDEA), but obviously enforcing said law isn't happening, even in better administrations.

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                                          technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          Screening can help identify the cause of problematic behavior.

                                          It's the school. There's no mystery here.

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