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    technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    It's almost like kids don't like being physically coerced into a prison for their whole day.

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    • R reksas@sopuli.xyz

      that kid does not have good home

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      technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Sounds like the school can't control the kids. More control needed. \s

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      • D darkness343@lemmy.world

        I feel like the teacher should be someone who not only possesses great knowledge and the capacity to guide, but also the ability to solo the entire classroom in a fight to make them submit and listen the fuck up.

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        technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        The more serious students will be armed. You're better off fleeing out a window.

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        • M michaelmrose@lemmy.world

          If you need a calming banana to not punch people not mistreating you in the face you are a garbage person

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          technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          #151

          not mistreating you

          You think this kid chose to be in school? It's violent coercion from the start.

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          • D david_eight@lemmy.world

            It's a child, calm down lol

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            technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            #152

            This is how children are treated. They're completely controlled, disempowered, and then hated. It's completely normalized.

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            • P passerby6497@lemmy.world

              Nah, even as a child that's unacceptable. My kid is only 5 and I don't let them hit people, and punish them when they do. The response from the parent shows the apple fell straight down

              Edit: if you think this is advocating violence against children, go touch grass or read a single book on parenting ffs. Natural/logical consequences make good punishments for misbehavior, and have gone a long way to helping my kid not act out (and are nonviolent, since that has to be spelled out)

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              technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              #153

              only 5... punish them

              Sounds real normal and healthy. jfc. Who upvotes this trash?

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              • P passerby6497@lemmy.world

                Punishing is much more than violence against children, and hitting them is one of the worst ways to punish for many reasons.

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                technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                #154

                But it'll get you upvotes on Lemmy apparently.

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                • P passerby6497@lemmy.world

                  Regardless of the labelling, punching someone in the face is absolutely not "acting like a child", it's acting like a garbage person. That shit should not be tolerated or excused away to complain about labelling.

                  And honestly, excusing away a kid battering their teacher as "acting like a child" is pretty goddamned unacceptable too.

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                  technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  What about the state locking kids in a room all day? Tolerated or no?

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                  • F faythofdragons@slrpnk.net

                    My little brother threw a chair at his preschool teacher. This is absolutely shit kids do, that they need to be taught is unacceptable. You don't teach kids to be better by writing them off as garbage humans, because they're still learning.

                    If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.

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                    technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    #156

                    If you call your five year old garbage

                    It's not enough to call them names. You gotta punish them! Didn't you see the other comments? \s

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                    • allnewtypeface@leminal.spaceA allnewtypeface@leminal.space

                      Garbage adults start as garbage children

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                      technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      #157

                      Yeah that's what zios and nazis say about murdering children.

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                      • D darkness343@lemmy.world

                        I feel like the teacher should be someone who not only possesses great knowledge and the capacity to guide, but also the ability to solo the entire classroom in a fight to make them submit and listen the fuck up.

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                        notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world
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                        Boot to the head!

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                        • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          It's almost like kids don't like being physically coerced into a prison for their whole day.

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                          jackbinimbul@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                          This specific child was being neglected at home. He clearly felt that school was the only place he could exert control without being hit for it.

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                          • T taiyang@lemmy.world

                            People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

                            Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

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                            technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            It's kind of amazing how nobody suspects the teacher or the school when they're the most obvious culprits in ruining the lives of children.

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                            • T taiyang@lemmy.world

                              In many ways, bad parenting is often why people go to therapy in the first place, haha. That said, I'm referring to something unrelated to parenting, as there are an assortment of disorders that have little to do with parenting.

                              Also, discipline is tricky; parents have to use more than punishment in their toolbox, like praise for good work, modeling kindness, etc., and avoid modeling physical punishment since that tends to be the main reason a kid hit other kids... although I doubt the banana parents hit their kids.

                              Screening can help identify the cause of problematic behavior. In the US, that legally is required by the schools in federal law (i.e. IDEA), but obviously enforcing said law isn't happening, even in better administrations.

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                              technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              Screening can help identify the cause of problematic behavior.

                              It's the school. There's no mystery here.

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                              • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                But it'll get you upvotes on Lemmy apparently.

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                                passerby6497@lemmy.world
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                                Show us on the thread where anyone advocated for hitting the kid? All I see is people assuming parents are going to hit the kid.

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                                • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                  only 5... punish them

                                  Sounds real normal and healthy. jfc. Who upvotes this trash?

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                                  passerby6497@lemmy.world
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                                  People who think you should teach kids not to hit people. And people who have enough braincells to rub together to understand that punishment and violence against children aren't the same thing.

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                                    passerby6497@lemmy.world
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                                    Or maybe you talk to the kid and take away a privilege they have temporarily that is (at least close to) a natural consequence of behavior? But then again, I'm just a parent of a relatively well adjusted kid who isn't violent and talks to me about their problems, so what the fuck do I know?

                                    Man, the amount of people who default "punishment" to "violence against kids" is fucking stupid.

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                                    • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      The more serious students will be armed. You're better off fleeing out a window.

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                                      darkness343@lemmy.world
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                                      Teacher should just learn to fight against armed opponents

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                                      • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        What about the state locking kids in a room all day? Tolerated or no?

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                                        passerby6497@lemmy.world
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                                        Sure, why not. Because all punishment is the job of the state, and no parent has the capability to punish their kid without violence, clearly.

                                        /S for those who can't realize punishment and violence are not synonymous

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                                          adulated_aspersion@lemmy.world
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                                          Dear Parent,

                                          In an effort to break the routine of unacceptable parenting, I would like to demonstrate what you can do with banans. First, get a large bunch of preferrably green bananas. Remove two of these bananas from the bunch. Take one banana, and insert the stem rigorously into your right ear canal. Repeat with the other banana in your left ear canal. Do not remove the banana until they begin to wither.

                                          And thats it!

                                          The effort to reduce your child's violent outbursts remains the same, but at least you will be able to share your Superpower of Narrow Intelligence with the public! Everyone will unequivocally know that you are a moron.

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