Teaching seems like a frustrating job

Nah, even as a child that's unacceptable. My kid is only 5 and I don't let them hit people, and punish them when they do. The response from the parent shows the apple fell straight down

Edit: if you think this is advocating violence against children, go touch grass or read a single book on parenting ffs. Natural/logical consequences make good punishments for misbehavior, and have gone a long way to helping my kid not act out (and are nonviolent, since that has to be spelled out)

Punishing is much more than violence against children, and hitting them is one of the worst ways to punish for many reasons.

Regardless of the labelling, punching someone in the face is absolutely not "acting like a child", it's acting like a garbage person. That shit should not be tolerated or excused away to complain about labelling.

And honestly, excusing away a kid battering their teacher as "acting like a child" is pretty goddamned unacceptable too.

My little brother threw a chair at his preschool teacher. This is absolutely shit kids do, that they need to be taught is unacceptable. You don't teach kids to be better by writing them off as garbage humans, because they're still learning.

If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.

Garbage adults start as garbage children

I feel like the teacher should be someone who not only possesses great knowledge and the capacity to guide, but also the ability to solo the entire classroom in a fight to make them submit and listen the fuck up.

It's almost like kids don't like being physically coerced into a prison for their whole day.

People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

Or, y'know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That's more common in the US.

In many ways, bad parenting is often why people go to therapy in the first place, haha. That said, I'm referring to something unrelated to parenting, as there are an assortment of disorders that have little to do with parenting.

Also, discipline is tricky; parents have to use more than punishment in their toolbox, like praise for good work, modeling kindness, etc., and avoid modeling physical punishment since that tends to be the main reason a kid hit other kids... although I doubt the banana parents hit their kids.

Screening can help identify the cause of problematic behavior. In the US, that legally is required by the schools in federal law (i.e. IDEA), but obviously enforcing said law isn't happening, even in better administrations.

But it'll get you upvotes on Lemmy apparently.

only 5... punish them

Sounds real normal and healthy. jfc. Who upvotes this trash?

The more serious students will be armed. You're better off fleeing out a window.

What about the state locking kids in a room all day? Tolerated or no?

My little brother threw a chair at his preschool teacher. This is absolutely shit kids do, that they need to be taught is unacceptable. You don't teach kids to be better by writing them off as garbage humans, because they're still learning.

If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.

I'm always amazed at how little reading comprehension people have, or how they end up responding to things in their own head.

1 - your example of your little brother acting like an asshole doesn't mean it's "shit that kids do". This is "boys will be boys" shit, and that's not acceptable. This is like saying your little brother throws rocks at moving cars or at animals and it's just "shit kids do". Misbehaving kids do it, and need to be taught better, but it is not normal kid behavior.

2 - no one is saying they're talking to the kid like that

3 - part of teaching kids to be better people is showing them there are natural consequences for their actions, which guess what? That's a form of punishment, and it isn't violence.

If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you're a shitty parent.

I ask my kid what's wrong and work with them to find a solution, and implement natural/logical (and because crayons are needed, non violent) consequences for their misbehavior. I may use choice descriptors for their behavior when they are not in the house, but I would never speak to my kid that way.

It baffles me how many people in this thread don't have a concept of natural/logical consequences as punishment, and it really fucking shows in the responses. But I guess when you're raised with violence and can't be bothered to look into alternatives, it's easy to assume and drag people on the Internet

Why do people believe this even happened? When did this happen? Which country did this happen in?

This is rage bait. The users name is "johnny bananas".

Right. Because johnny bananas wrote about how s parent of their student gave their kid a comfort banana. And I'm the stupid one. Enjoy eating that onion.