Do you ever get turned on by your own body/presentation?

@natkr that's the gist, yeah

Circa 2014, prior to my transition, I practiced looking at myself in the mirror everyday after my shower, trying make myself to like my body. I despised it. It eventually worked. I stared long enough to start seeing past my own delusions about what it looked like, to see that I was hot!

That prep really made it easy for me once I recognized that I am trans. And I realize now, that I never despised my body, I was just didn't fit well in into my meatsuit with that configuration.
@alice

@alice hmm, I'm always curious about people's pan footnotes. A lot about pansexuality resonates with me, except for the empirical fact that I am almost (but not absolutely) never attracted to men.

@eruonna @alice For a long time I thought I was theoretically pan. Then I did some science. I am now emperically pan.

@alice More indifferent than anything.

@eruonna so, when I say "other folx gender wasn't really a factor in who I found attractive¹", the ¹ stands for "it's more complicated than that", specifically:

- body hair is a huge turnoff for me, and (most) men tend to let that stuff grow wild
- "boy-smell²" is another big turnoff for me, and surprise, it's significantly more common on boys
- in general, men need to put in a similar amount of work³ as women for me to find them attractive

So it shakes out that I end up being hot for way more women and other femme-presenting folx than I do men or masc-presenting folx, just by merit of two of my biggest turn-offs happening to be *way* more common in men (gay men offset this math somewhat, but they tend to be gay, so ‍️).

² that musky gym sock smell. I know some folx love it—hell, they make like a hundred 12-in-1 body products to make men specifically smell *more* like that, so someone must think it smells good. Give me vanillas, strawberries, brass, lock lubricant, etc *any⁴* day.

³ most don't.

@alice Like any important scientific article

@alice I really get that amount of work thing, especially looking at man / woman couples¹ where you can see them side by side, and it is clear that she is putting in work and he really isn't.

¹ new weirdest slash pairing

⁴ I saw that

@alice given ive gone through my camera roll and gone "oh i don't remember meeting this pretty woman" before realizing it's. that's me, yeah,. you can guess my vote

- carrie

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I mean, it might change once I have proper tits to grope...

@alice fascinating distribution. I've answered honestly and am surprised at the low turnout (turn on?) in my selected demographic.

A 41% combined yes overall (as of when this was written) is also intriguing and makes me wonder what this actually means.

@eruonna

@alice Well phooey. Ok my vote is the opposite of what I put ‍️

@alice@lgbtqia.space Crumbs. I misread "cishet" as "cis". If you'd like the corrected data point, it's "non-cishet masc; no".

@MelissaAtwell 🫂

@alice@lgbtqia.space One of my favorite things to get off to when i'm having solo fun is a compilation of me cumming, sometimes on/in a partner but a lot are solo.

Thinking about how good it felt on one hand, and on the other wishing the dick on my screen was there in front of me IRL (but not attached to me) so I could suck it.

Because in my own biased opinion I think I have a pretty good looking dick and I'm sad I'll never get to give it a blowjob and feel it cum in my mouth

Oh, to have a portal gun... lol

@alice I'm not-cishet femme. I would say that "turned on" might be workable, but usually I'm not turned on by my body and "fascinated and jubilant" would be way more accurate day-to-day.

That said, my relationship with masturbation has improved immensely since transitioning. I think that finding myself attractive plays some role in that, but being more comfortable in my body and how it responds to sexual pleasure plays a much greater role.

I guess I vote "non-cishet femme; no"? But it's a grey area for me.

@manunzip I definitely use my own nude gallery for inspiration when I've got the toys out sometimes.

@alice I like this post, it's still got me thinking. Like, I wouldn't say that I'm aroused by the idea of "myself," but I am aroused by fantasies which involve femme treatment of my body.

For example, I find arousal in fantasies where someone is caressing my breasts or performing vaginal penetration on me, but those are normal things for a femme allosexual person to be aroused by. Regardless of whether those features are home-grown, store-bought, or hypothetical. It doesn't mean I'm turned on by my body or the concept of having a vagina. It's really that in the fantasy I'm imagining using those parts for sex specifically.

This question feels more nuanced the more I think about it lol

Now I'm curious how different the answers would be if I'd phrased the question as "If you could be someone else for a day, and had the opportunity to, would you fuck yourself?"