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**Decentralized Dominance: The Unbribed Power of Webmentions**

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  • Decenta Lyzed ☯️🇬🇱:dogroll:P This user is from outside of this forum
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    **Decentralized Dominance: The Unbribed Power of Webmentions**

    I've been a vocal advocate for Webmentions for a while - and I'm here to tell you that this game-changing technology is not just a nicety, but a necessity.

    The fundamentals are crystal clear: take control of your online presence, ditch the middlemen, and shatter the shackles of Big Tech's stranglehold. It's time to rewrite the rules and reclaim your digital sovereignty.

    Let's cut to the chase with an example that'll leave you breathless: imagine Asuka stumbling upon a scorching article on Shinji's site at https://Shinji.com/article. She fires off a comment that'd make a thousand lesser bloggers green with envy - but instead of relying on some soulless commenting system, she takes it to the next level by sending a Webmention directly to Shinji's site.

    The implications are staggering: when both parties support Webmentions, they're essentially saying, "You can have my comment, right now." The source URL (https://Asuka.com/comment) and target URL (https://Shinji.com/article) are etched in stone - no more third-party intermediaries, no more social media login hoops to jump through. Just the raw power of the Web.

    Now, I know what you're thinking: "But isn't this just a fancy alternative to ActivityPub?" Ah, friend, you'd be wrong. Dead wrong. #ActivityPub is a Byzantine nightmare that'll leave your head spinning with concepts like actors, relays, followers, and more. Webmentions, on the other hand, are a elegant, peer-to-peer solution that doesn't require any of that mumbo-jumbo.

    And let's not forget the sheer flexibility of Microformats - you can use Webmentions to share anything from likes to RSVPs, media, locations, and even events. The possibilities are endless.

    Don't be held hostage by the status quo. Join the Indieweb and take control of your online destiny once and for all.

    #webmention #webmentions #indieweb

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      **Decentralized Dominance: The Unbribed Power of Webmentions**

      I've been a vocal advocate for Webmentions for a while - and I'm here to tell you that this game-changing technology is not just a nicety, but a necessity.

      The fundamentals are crystal clear: take control of your online presence, ditch the middlemen, and shatter the shackles of Big Tech's stranglehold. It's time to rewrite the rules and reclaim your digital sovereignty.

      Let's cut to the chase with an example that'll leave you breathless: imagine Asuka stumbling upon a scorching article on Shinji's site at https://Shinji.com/article. She fires off a comment that'd make a thousand lesser bloggers green with envy - but instead of relying on some soulless commenting system, she takes it to the next level by sending a Webmention directly to Shinji's site.

      The implications are staggering: when both parties support Webmentions, they're essentially saying, "You can have my comment, right now." The source URL (https://Asuka.com/comment) and target URL (https://Shinji.com/article) are etched in stone - no more third-party intermediaries, no more social media login hoops to jump through. Just the raw power of the Web.

      Now, I know what you're thinking: "But isn't this just a fancy alternative to ActivityPub?" Ah, friend, you'd be wrong. Dead wrong. #ActivityPub is a Byzantine nightmare that'll leave your head spinning with concepts like actors, relays, followers, and more. Webmentions, on the other hand, are a elegant, peer-to-peer solution that doesn't require any of that mumbo-jumbo.

      And let's not forget the sheer flexibility of Microformats - you can use Webmentions to share anything from likes to RSVPs, media, locations, and even events. The possibilities are endless.

      Don't be held hostage by the status quo. Join the Indieweb and take control of your online destiny once and for all.

      #webmention #webmentions #indieweb

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      on other side of the Moon, Microformats does look like cargo-cult of Web2.0, echo chamber esolang elitist group which output long wiki specs, 30-40 new semantic tags and classes that should have been in your HTML since yesterday, burden on downstream implementations.

      how are webmentions protected from massive spam vector?

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        on other side of the Moon, Microformats does look like cargo-cult of Web2.0, echo chamber esolang elitist group which output long wiki specs, 30-40 new semantic tags and classes that should have been in your HTML since yesterday, burden on downstream implementations.

        how are webmentions protected from massive spam vector?

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        @pepper0 This is another nice thing: there are degrees to which you can automate the exchange of webmentions. Personally, I ask people to paste their webmention into a captcha-protected form, and then I let it onto my site only after I've had a look at the mention itself.

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          **Decentralized Dominance: The Unbribed Power of Webmentions**

          I've been a vocal advocate for Webmentions for a while - and I'm here to tell you that this game-changing technology is not just a nicety, but a necessity.

          The fundamentals are crystal clear: take control of your online presence, ditch the middlemen, and shatter the shackles of Big Tech's stranglehold. It's time to rewrite the rules and reclaim your digital sovereignty.

          Let's cut to the chase with an example that'll leave you breathless: imagine Asuka stumbling upon a scorching article on Shinji's site at https://Shinji.com/article. She fires off a comment that'd make a thousand lesser bloggers green with envy - but instead of relying on some soulless commenting system, she takes it to the next level by sending a Webmention directly to Shinji's site.

          The implications are staggering: when both parties support Webmentions, they're essentially saying, "You can have my comment, right now." The source URL (https://Asuka.com/comment) and target URL (https://Shinji.com/article) are etched in stone - no more third-party intermediaries, no more social media login hoops to jump through. Just the raw power of the Web.

          Now, I know what you're thinking: "But isn't this just a fancy alternative to ActivityPub?" Ah, friend, you'd be wrong. Dead wrong. #ActivityPub is a Byzantine nightmare that'll leave your head spinning with concepts like actors, relays, followers, and more. Webmentions, on the other hand, are a elegant, peer-to-peer solution that doesn't require any of that mumbo-jumbo.

          And let's not forget the sheer flexibility of Microformats - you can use Webmentions to share anything from likes to RSVPs, media, locations, and even events. The possibilities are endless.

          Don't be held hostage by the status quo. Join the Indieweb and take control of your online destiny once and for all.

          #webmention #webmentions #indieweb

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          @pepper0

          ps I think unbribed -> unbridled ?

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            @pepper0 This is another nice thing: there are degrees to which you can automate the exchange of webmentions. Personally, I ask people to paste their webmention into a captcha-protected form, and then I let it onto my site only after I've had a look at the mention itself.

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            @khleedril
            but what if person receives hundreds of webmentions\comments ? it will be impossible for a single person to review each one, on a separate website, in a reasonable amount of time.

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              @khleedril
              but what if person receives hundreds of webmentions\comments ? it will be impossible for a single person to review each one, on a separate website, in a reasonable amount of time.

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              @pepper0 Not if you have the infrastructure in place. It can be a simple click to see the mention and a click to accept/reject.

              I hope one day I'll get hundreds of mentions in a short period...

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                @pepper0 Not if you have the infrastructure in place. It can be a simple click to see the mention and a click to accept/reject.

                I hope one day I'll get hundreds of mentions in a short period...

                Decenta Lyzed ☯️🇬🇱:dogroll:P This user is from outside of this forum
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                @khleedril
                It be a simple click to see the mention and a click to accept/reject, via standalone indieweb client app (written in a safe language like haskell, idris or rust), that pulls (hundreds) comments in a Microformat from (dozen) urls. WIthout the need to browse manually.
                But it that so, now? I have seen Indeweb "browser\publishing" apps, but haven't seen screenshots of them doing exactly THIS/that.

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                  on other side of the Moon, Microformats does look like cargo-cult of Web2.0, echo chamber esolang elitist group which output long wiki specs, 30-40 new semantic tags and classes that should have been in your HTML since yesterday, burden on downstream implementations.

                  how are webmentions protected from massive spam vector?

                  Ton ZijlstraT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @pepper0 currently mostly bc there are so few sites accepting WM. Second bc every WM means there must be an actual page with an actual link that the receiving site can verify. So there is a burden on the sender's site that other spam types don't have. Then once WMs are received and verified they are treated as comments in your CMS and run through the regular spam detection aids. In my case, WMs received by my WordPress site go through Akismet spam filtering. I also keep a whitelist of regulars.

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                  • Decenta Lyzed ☯️🇬🇱:dogroll:P Decenta Lyzed ☯️🇬🇱:dogroll:

                    **Decentralized Dominance: The Unbribed Power of Webmentions**

                    I've been a vocal advocate for Webmentions for a while - and I'm here to tell you that this game-changing technology is not just a nicety, but a necessity.

                    The fundamentals are crystal clear: take control of your online presence, ditch the middlemen, and shatter the shackles of Big Tech's stranglehold. It's time to rewrite the rules and reclaim your digital sovereignty.

                    Let's cut to the chase with an example that'll leave you breathless: imagine Asuka stumbling upon a scorching article on Shinji's site at https://Shinji.com/article. She fires off a comment that'd make a thousand lesser bloggers green with envy - but instead of relying on some soulless commenting system, she takes it to the next level by sending a Webmention directly to Shinji's site.

                    The implications are staggering: when both parties support Webmentions, they're essentially saying, "You can have my comment, right now." The source URL (https://Asuka.com/comment) and target URL (https://Shinji.com/article) are etched in stone - no more third-party intermediaries, no more social media login hoops to jump through. Just the raw power of the Web.

                    Now, I know what you're thinking: "But isn't this just a fancy alternative to ActivityPub?" Ah, friend, you'd be wrong. Dead wrong. #ActivityPub is a Byzantine nightmare that'll leave your head spinning with concepts like actors, relays, followers, and more. Webmentions, on the other hand, are a elegant, peer-to-peer solution that doesn't require any of that mumbo-jumbo.

                    And let's not forget the sheer flexibility of Microformats - you can use Webmentions to share anything from likes to RSVPs, media, locations, and even events. The possibilities are endless.

                    Don't be held hostage by the status quo. Join the Indieweb and take control of your online destiny once and for all.

                    #webmention #webmentions #indieweb

                    Decenta Lyzed ☯️🇬🇱:dogroll:P This user is from outside of this forum
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                    another question is if Webmention's WebAPI allows at least 10kb of POST (so far unspecified amount?), it could fit 2000 unicode characters (or 10000 ASCII) message itself, without requiring the message to be published on 3rd server.
                    playing alternative of #nostr relay. Or Nostr relays one day start working with webmentions.
                    meanwhile nostr relays been moving towards self publishing of web pages via decentralized hosting nostr protocol NIP.

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