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  3. I know this is already on Mastodon team's radar, but I do want to stress how important this feature is.

I know this is already on Mastodon team's radar, but I do want to stress how important this feature is.

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  • lobingeraL lobingera

    @thenexusofprivacy @stefan

    atm not on this page

    https://joinmastodon.org/roadmap

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    Useful info, thanks for checking!

    (And, how embarassing that I didn't even do the straightforward checking myself)

    @lobingera @stefan

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    • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

      @kycm_ancy Yeah, I'm not going to lie, seeing how Bluesky seems to have reversed its decline over the past week, the fediverse has a lot of catching up to do.

      https://bluefacts.app/bluesky-user-growth?t=3m

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      @stefan I don't think the Fedi is ever going to go mainstream, it's basically the Linux of social media

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      • CyberlyraC Cyberlyra

        @stefan

        thank you for prioritizing this. It's not a total solve (there are no technical solutions to social problems) but it will go a long way toward helping make our communities feel safer and newcomers feel welcome.

        and to the Italian instance mod, that's cool you have no problems, tons of others do, and for us this has been an issue we raised repeatedly to apparently deaf ears. I applaud the Mastodon team for applying their care to this issue.

        @informapirata

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        #58

        @cyberlyra I'm sorry, I am not involved with Mastodon's team, or this request. But I do hope that after we speak out enough, this will get the prioritization it deserves, for the sake of fediverse's diversity.

        @informapirata

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        • Cole MinorK Cole Minor

          @stefan I don't think the Fedi is ever going to go mainstream, it's basically the Linux of social media

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          wrote last edited by
          #59

          @kycm_ancy Perhaps. But I am curious to see what happens when Bluesky's money runs out.

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          • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

            @kycm_ancy Perhaps. But I am curious to see what happens when Bluesky's money runs out.

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            #60

            @stefan I can only speculate but they did mention that they are considering ways to get monetized, but the first step will be ads for sure lol

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            • Cole MinorK Cole Minor

              @stefan I can only speculate but they did mention that they are considering ways to get monetized, but the first step will be ads for sure lol

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              wrote last edited by
              #61

              @kycm_ancy Yep.

              And I don't want to speculate either, but --

              https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan/110254051709008742

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              • Urban CameraU Urban Camera

                @stefan

                What I would love to see in addition is an Approve Reply function, to completely eliminate the echo chamber and allow a wider diversity of appropriate replies. Only allowing @-mentions and @-followers severely limits the chance for good, broad conversation.

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                #62

                @uc Hmm, I'm not sure I understand how this would work, mind elaborating?

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                • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                  @uc Hmm, I'm not sure I understand how this would work, mind elaborating?

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #63

                  @stefan

                  for someone who has not been approved before, or for all replies if desired, a reply goes into a moderation queue for the OP to read and approve or dismiss. Much the same as with some blogging software.

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                  • Urban CameraU Urban Camera

                    @stefan

                    for someone who has not been approved before, or for all replies if desired, a reply goes into a moderation queue for the OP to read and approve or dismiss. Much the same as with some blogging software.

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                    #64

                    @uc Ahh, interesting idea!

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                    • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                      @stefan we already have reply controls. Every object has a `replies` collection that is managed by the author's server. If a) remote servers only use that collection for showing replies and b) the local server lets the user curate the collection, it just works.

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                      @evan @stefan “If a) remote servers only use that collection for showing replies and b) the local server lets the user curate the collection, it just works.”

                      You’re not listening to the users, who prefer the ability to block replies altogether rather than to simply ignore them as you propose here.

                      For example, elsewhere in this thread @elena writes “Thing is, as a woman on the internet, I prefer to see what people are saying to me... so I can block accounts or entire servers if needed.”

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                      • 8124🟦8 8124🟦

                        @evan @stefan “If a) remote servers only use that collection for showing replies and b) the local server lets the user curate the collection, it just works.”

                        You’re not listening to the users, who prefer the ability to block replies altogether rather than to simply ignore them as you propose here.

                        For example, elsewhere in this thread @elena writes “Thing is, as a woman on the internet, I prefer to see what people are saying to me... so I can block accounts or entire servers if needed.”

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #66

                        @8124 @stefan @elena obviously, one should be able to optionally view responses that aren't part of the collection. Most social platforms allow this.

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                        • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                          @8124 @stefan @elena obviously, one should be able to optionally view responses that aren't part of the collection. Most social platforms allow this.

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                          @evan @stefan @elena Yeah, true enough, but then you are no longer talking about “reply controls” in the same sense which others are using the term when asking for this feature.

                          When they find out that replies are not controlled (after installing your software from a landing page emblazoned with “now supports reply controls”) they will get mad at you.

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                          • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                            @8124 @stefan @elena obviously, one should be able to optionally view responses that aren't part of the collection. Most social platforms allow this.

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                            #68

                            @8124 @stefan @elena declaring an acceptance policy ahead of time is helpful, definitely. "Only followers", "Only mutuals", "Only mentioned people". It can't prevent replies, of course, but it helps compliant clients and servers know which replies won't be accepted.

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                            • 8124🟦8 8124🟦

                              @evan @stefan @elena Yeah, true enough, but then you are no longer talking about “reply controls” in the same sense which others are using the term when asking for this feature.

                              When they find out that replies are not controlled (after installing your software from a landing page emblazoned with “now supports reply controls”) they will get mad at you.

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                              #69

                              @8124 @stefan @elena Definitely put my contact information on that page. I'm happy to answer any questions.

                              This is definitely reply control; you control which replies are put into the official `replies` list.

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                              • Evan ProdromouE Evan Prodromou

                                @8124 @stefan @elena declaring an acceptance policy ahead of time is helpful, definitely. "Only followers", "Only mutuals", "Only mentioned people". It can't prevent replies, of course, but it helps compliant clients and servers know which replies won't be accepted.

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                                #70

                                @evan @stefan @elena “It can't prevent replies, of course”

                                This is literally my only point, so I’m glad we can agree on it.

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                                • 8124🟦8 8124🟦

                                  @evan @stefan @elena “It can't prevent replies, of course”

                                  This is literally my only point, so I’m glad we can agree on it.

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                                  @8124 @stefan @elena good!

                                  I think there are social pressures possible, such as blocking servers that don't respect advisory flags.

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