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  • Martin RundkvistM This user is from outside of this forum
    Martin RundkvistM This user is from outside of this forum
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    Hey astronomers, I have a question.

    Let's say I'm on a planet in a solar system. Does it matter to my living conditions if I'm in a neat, undisturbed galaxy or in one that is messed up by interaction with neighbours?

    #astronomy #space

    NömenlōonyN Annelies Kamran, Ph.D.A slowtigerS WelkinW 4 Replies Last reply
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    • Martin RundkvistM Martin Rundkvist

      Hey astronomers, I have a question.

      Let's say I'm on a planet in a solar system. Does it matter to my living conditions if I'm in a neat, undisturbed galaxy or in one that is messed up by interaction with neighbours?

      #astronomy #space

      NömenlōonyN This user is from outside of this forum
      NömenlōonyN This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mrundkvist no it doesn't. Galactic interactions are such a huge scale event that from a planetary point of view you'll just have a very busy sky full of nebulae and stars - but your nearest stars are still unlikely to be closer than about 2 light years which would cause virtually no influence at all on your planet and it's systems

      This is actually quite a good video about it.

      https://youtu.be/nKy9anN-kD4?si=VImZZ2crK4XK1iQV

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      • Martin RundkvistM Martin Rundkvist

        Hey astronomers, I have a question.

        Let's say I'm on a planet in a solar system. Does it matter to my living conditions if I'm in a neat, undisturbed galaxy or in one that is messed up by interaction with neighbours?

        #astronomy #space

        Annelies Kamran, Ph.D.A This user is from outside of this forum
        Annelies Kamran, Ph.D.A This user is from outside of this forum
        Annelies Kamran, Ph.D.
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        @mrundkvist interesting question. Bookmarking this because I want to know the answer 👍🏽

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        • Dr. Victoria GrinbergV This user is from outside of this forum
          Dr. Victoria GrinbergV This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mrundkvist @nomenloony no, there is too much empty space in galaxies

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          • NömenlōonyN This user is from outside of this forum
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            @mrundkvist because there's actually so much space in a galaxy it's actually highly unlikely stars would ever come close enough. If the stars were a metre across there'd be around 120km apart on a smaller scale.

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            • Dr. Victoria GrinbergV Dr. Victoria Grinberg

              @mrundkvist @nomenloony no, there is too much empty space in galaxies

              Martin RundkvistM This user is from outside of this forum
              Martin RundkvistM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @vicgrinberg @nomenloony

              Imagine being Erwin Hubble in a really fucked up galaxy, looking out at all the nice ones next door, and not being able to understand your own galaxy's structure at all. 😄

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              • Martin RundkvistM Martin Rundkvist

                @vicgrinberg @nomenloony

                Imagine being Erwin Hubble in a really fucked up galaxy, looking out at all the nice ones next door, and not being able to understand your own galaxy's structure at all. 😄

                Dr. Victoria GrinbergV This user is from outside of this forum
                Dr. Victoria GrinbergV This user is from outside of this forum
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                @mrundkvist @nomenloony we actually still learning a lot of new things about our own galaxy's structure and don't fully understand it! It's generally just hard to know more about the galaxy we are stuck jn vs the ones we see from the outside: https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2025/01/The_best_Milky_Way_map_by_Gaia

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                • Martin RundkvistM Martin Rundkvist

                  @vicgrinberg @nomenloony

                  Imagine being Erwin Hubble in a really fucked up galaxy, looking out at all the nice ones next door, and not being able to understand your own galaxy's structure at all. 😄

                  jenbanimJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @mrundkvist @vicgrinberg @nomenloony it's genuinely difficult to study the far side of the Milky Way because of all the stars, gas, and dust between us. This is a pain for studying the history and evolution of the Milky Way. So in some small way we are living in that reality

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_Avoidance

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                  • Dr. Victoria GrinbergV This user is from outside of this forum
                    Dr. Victoria GrinbergV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @mrundkvist @jenbanim @nomenloony no, wrong. Here a good description of how density waves work https://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/*/Density+Wave+Model

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                    • jenbanimJ jenbanim

                      @mrundkvist @vicgrinberg @nomenloony it's genuinely difficult to study the far side of the Milky Way because of all the stars, gas, and dust between us. This is a pain for studying the history and evolution of the Milky Way. So in some small way we are living in that reality

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_Avoidance

                      Janne MorenJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @jenbanim @mrundkvist @vicgrinberg @nomenloony
                      I guess it's a bit like trying to understand the layout of your own city when you're stuck in a single street corner, unable to move. But you can get nice aerial pictures of other cities.

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                      • Janne MorenJ Janne Moren

                        @jenbanim @mrundkvist @vicgrinberg @nomenloony
                        I guess it's a bit like trying to understand the layout of your own city when you're stuck in a single street corner, unable to move. But you can get nice aerial pictures of other cities.

                        Dr. Victoria GrinbergV This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @jannem @jenbanim @mrundkvist @nomenloony that's a really nice comparison!

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                        • Martin RundkvistM Martin Rundkvist

                          Hey astronomers, I have a question.

                          Let's say I'm on a planet in a solar system. Does it matter to my living conditions if I'm in a neat, undisturbed galaxy or in one that is messed up by interaction with neighbours?

                          #astronomy #space

                          slowtigerS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @mrundkvist
                          No, because it's happening on completely different time scales. Galaxy dances happen in millions of years, your life may barely extend 100 yrs.

                          Some events may happen in your time: a deadly meteor strike. But this time the probability works in your favour: to hit your planet is against a lot of odds - but not completely impossible.

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                          • Martin RundkvistM Martin Rundkvist

                            Hey astronomers, I have a question.

                            Let's say I'm on a planet in a solar system. Does it matter to my living conditions if I'm in a neat, undisturbed galaxy or in one that is messed up by interaction with neighbours?

                            #astronomy #space

                            WelkinW This user is from outside of this forum
                            WelkinW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @mrundkvist Not by much. Galaxy merges are a slow processes taking eons. The chances of two stars colliding are low. However there is a possibility of close stellar encounters increasing, but again not by much. It does depends on which part of the galaxy the planet is and which around which star it revolves around. There is a hypothesis of owl type galaxies having 3 or more SMBH. If that is the case then position of the star w.r.t the SMBH does impact the planet.

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                            • Dr. Victoria GrinbergV Dr. Victoria Grinberg

                              @mrundkvist @nomenloony we actually still learning a lot of new things about our own galaxy's structure and don't fully understand it! It's generally just hard to know more about the galaxy we are stuck jn vs the ones we see from the outside: https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2025/01/The_best_Milky_Way_map_by_Gaia

                              V MartínS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @vicgrinberg @mrundkvist @nomenloony fav case is the edge-on warp deducted from Gaia data

                              https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Gaia/Gaia_discovers_our_galaxy_s_great_wave

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