One of the most common objections I hear to climate action is: “But what about China?”
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@cazabon @kathhayhoe mostly because you can get a gigawatt of solar+batteries online in a few years but it takes like 15-30 to get a nuclear plant online. It also happens to be a lot more expensive.
We absolutely should not have killed nuclear power in favor of coal in the 70s. But we don’t have time now to focus on it as a solution.
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@thegarbagebird @TorbenI @kathhayhoe
Because it's not a normal country and the regime has a long history of lying and manipulating information to save face. They have fleets of heavily armed, illegal fishing vessels stripping the oceans right off the coasts of countries as far as South America.
A better question to ask is how people have been massaged over the past 20 years into accepting that China is normal and pretending that they are a friend to the environment or human rights.
@contrasocial so it's bad when they do it
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@contrasocial so it's bad when they do it
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@thegarbagebird @TorbenI @kathhayhoe
Because it's not a normal country and the regime has a long history of lying and manipulating information to save face. They have fleets of heavily armed, illegal fishing vessels stripping the oceans right off the coasts of countries as far as South America.
A better question to ask is how people have been massaged over the past 20 years into accepting that China is normal and pretending that they are a friend to the environment or human rights.
@contrasocial @TorbenI @kathhayhoe i agree it's not normal
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@contrasocial @TorbenI @kathhayhoe i agree it's not normal
@contrasocial @TorbenI @kathhayhoe so can we accept that automatic sinophobia might come from the same place? i am happy to accept that it is only one direction and it is not normal
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@thegarbagebird @TorbenI @kathhayhoe
Because it's not a normal country and the regime has a long history of lying and manipulating information to save face. They have fleets of heavily armed, illegal fishing vessels stripping the oceans right off the coasts of countries as far as South America.
A better question to ask is how people have been massaged over the past 20 years into accepting that China is normal and pretending that they are a friend to the environment or human rights.
@contrasocial i really hate to be rude but “normal country” is not real @TorbenI @kathhayhoe
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@thegarbagebird @TorbenI @contrasocial @kathhayhoe
"Their annual emissions are a vertical line" (1950 to 2024)@dec23k @TorbenI @contrasocial @kathhayhoe at this point i am happy to be untagged
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@thegarbagebird @TorbenI @kathhayhoe
Because it's not a normal country and the regime has a long history of lying and manipulating information to save face. They have fleets of heavily armed, illegal fishing vessels stripping the oceans right off the coasts of countries as far as South America.
A better question to ask is how people have been massaged over the past 20 years into accepting that China is normal and pretending that they are a friend to the environment or human rights.
@contrasocial i know it's very rude but i must go back and how far out of pocket you came. a better question is asking why chevron’s ghost fleets, replete with the same flags and papers, are like, ok @TorbenI @kathhayhoe
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@contrasocial i know it's very rude but i must go back and how far out of pocket you came. a better question is asking why chevron’s ghost fleets, replete with the same flags and papers, are like, ok @TorbenI @kathhayhoe
@contrasocial @TorbenI @kathhayhoe so it's bad when they do it
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@contrasocial @TorbenI @kathhayhoe so it's bad when they do it
@contrasocial i am glad we have finally reached consensus. it's okay when they do it. @TorbenI @kathhayhoe
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