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  • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

    @benroyce @blogdiva

    I repeat and will continue to repeat the only way to step off the path of destruction is the immediate reduction of all energy use, and resource use. The equation that you and I get told repeatedly is a false one..

    Renewables come with a permanently destructive permanently, toxic permanently, life ending legacy.

    In order to build it, we have to kill the planet.

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    @GhostOnTheHalfShell @blogdiva

    this is the trap of perfectionism

    there is nothing wrong with your argument, but you've decided to make another argument your enemy. even though that argument is a good thing, it is not a perfect thing, so you think you can complain

    you can't

    is it good we reduce our reliance on fossil fuels?

    yes

    is it good to reduce resource use, your agenda?

    also yes

    but why make enemies of these fine goals

    applaud both, push both

    don't make them enemies. that is a lie

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    • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

      @brad @benroyce @blogdiva

      And 50 years of suburban sprawl, witches economically insolvent by the way.

      The least expensive most resource and energy efficient way to save the planet is to make car free, walkable and reasonably self-sufficient communities.

      The best way to think about this is the length of the supply chain you rely on is level of energy and environmental destruction you rely on.

      The most effective way to observe planetary boundaries is to live within the means of your locality

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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell @brad @blogdiva

      so go do that

      i support your agenda

      why must you attack another agenda that is also good?

      applaud efforts to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels

      *and* work on your agenda

      you can do both, because both are good things

      positing one as the enemy of the other is a lie

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      • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

        @eFlex @blogdiva

        Do you know how those cheap panels are built? Well, it turns out those panels needs tons of carbon in order to manufacture them.. in order to produce all that coal you need to use a lot of water to mine and process them. When you damn up a river, it releases many times of methane, 28 x more potent GHG.

        And we’re not even the complete destruction of biomes to get at all the minerals we need copper aluminum, silver lithium etc.

        Destroy the planet in order to save us from CO2

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        @eFlex @blogdiva

        For instance, in order for China to produce those incredibly inexpensive, solar panels, they’ve caused enormous tracks of old growth forest in Southeast Asia to be cut down.

        Question becomes how many brown people and how much of the world’s ecologies are you happy to obliterate as a sacrifice zone, to keep using as much energy as we do. In order to build this so-called renewable future exponentially more life has to be exterminated.

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        • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

          @benroyce @blogdiva

          I repeat and will continue to repeat the only way to step off the path of destruction is the immediate reduction of all energy use, and resource use. The equation that you and I get told repeatedly is a false one..

          Renewables come with a permanently destructive permanently, toxic permanently, life ending legacy.

          In order to build it, we have to kill the planet.

          Bent ChinrestP This user is from outside of this forum
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          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @benroyce @blogdiva good bet the very next proposed strategy is a eugenicist purge of half the world's latitudes

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