Wow. See here is why I love the Mormon people.
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Wow. See here is why I love the Mormon people. When they end up cutting past the propaganda that keeps them hampered, they show up with the kind of energy and moral correctness that we were taught to have, that surpasses any modern church I've ever seen.
LDS Corp has left the ICE issue up to individual wards to decide. The wards that have decided to protect their own are *going hard*. This is a fantastic model for mutual aid. This is some City of Enoch level bravery and righteousness.
They're protesting detention centers, holding services online, locking down church entrances against potential ICE raids, planning escape routes, providing information about rights and how to handle ICE, feeding people, picking up kids,
“It is my divine obligation to … be politically aware and pass along information,” [Osorio Reyes] said, “to make sure the people in my ward are informed and safe.”
The Stake President is collecting extra fast offerings to help affected families with material needs.
This is the shit I was raised on. This is the shit I was told we were to be doing. And then... we simply never did. Our energies were redirected to useless time-wasters, and more priority was placed on "sexual" righteousness and whether or not someone drank Coke. Our minds were filled with barely coded racist interpretations of the world.
This is why, for my activism focus, I chose to work with exmormon populations. Because for all the dysfunctional ways we were conditioned to be, we were also instilled with a fire. Helping exmormons (and open-minded progressive Mormons) dump the dysfunctional baggage frees us up to be a real force for good in this world. We gave a majority of our time and money to the LDS Church, so when we stop doing that, our energies are free to go elsewhere.
One note on the geopolitics of the situation: unlike other brands of Christianity in the US, the LDS Church is interestingly torn on the immigration issue, because outside of the USA, their majority membership is in Latin America.
I've got one more thing to say about top-level leadership, next post.
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Original (paywalled still):
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2026/02/03/how-latter-day-saints-la-responded/
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Wow. See here is why I love the Mormon people. When they end up cutting past the propaganda that keeps them hampered, they show up with the kind of energy and moral correctness that we were taught to have, that surpasses any modern church I've ever seen.
LDS Corp has left the ICE issue up to individual wards to decide. The wards that have decided to protect their own are *going hard*. This is a fantastic model for mutual aid. This is some City of Enoch level bravery and righteousness.
They're protesting detention centers, holding services online, locking down church entrances against potential ICE raids, planning escape routes, providing information about rights and how to handle ICE, feeding people, picking up kids,
“It is my divine obligation to … be politically aware and pass along information,” [Osorio Reyes] said, “to make sure the people in my ward are informed and safe.”
The Stake President is collecting extra fast offerings to help affected families with material needs.
This is the shit I was raised on. This is the shit I was told we were to be doing. And then... we simply never did. Our energies were redirected to useless time-wasters, and more priority was placed on "sexual" righteousness and whether or not someone drank Coke. Our minds were filled with barely coded racist interpretations of the world.
This is why, for my activism focus, I chose to work with exmormon populations. Because for all the dysfunctional ways we were conditioned to be, we were also instilled with a fire. Helping exmormons (and open-minded progressive Mormons) dump the dysfunctional baggage frees us up to be a real force for good in this world. We gave a majority of our time and money to the LDS Church, so when we stop doing that, our energies are free to go elsewhere.
One note on the geopolitics of the situation: unlike other brands of Christianity in the US, the LDS Church is interestingly torn on the immigration issue, because outside of the USA, their majority membership is in Latin America.
I've got one more thing to say about top-level leadership, next post.
Archive:
Original (paywalled still):
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2026/02/03/how-latter-day-saints-la-responded/
@corbden they still absolutely can NOT be trusted. Do not trust the Mormons. They are a freaky, modern, racist, misogynistic, apocalypse death cult.
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Wow. See here is why I love the Mormon people. When they end up cutting past the propaganda that keeps them hampered, they show up with the kind of energy and moral correctness that we were taught to have, that surpasses any modern church I've ever seen.
LDS Corp has left the ICE issue up to individual wards to decide. The wards that have decided to protect their own are *going hard*. This is a fantastic model for mutual aid. This is some City of Enoch level bravery and righteousness.
They're protesting detention centers, holding services online, locking down church entrances against potential ICE raids, planning escape routes, providing information about rights and how to handle ICE, feeding people, picking up kids,
“It is my divine obligation to … be politically aware and pass along information,” [Osorio Reyes] said, “to make sure the people in my ward are informed and safe.”
The Stake President is collecting extra fast offerings to help affected families with material needs.
This is the shit I was raised on. This is the shit I was told we were to be doing. And then... we simply never did. Our energies were redirected to useless time-wasters, and more priority was placed on "sexual" righteousness and whether or not someone drank Coke. Our minds were filled with barely coded racist interpretations of the world.
This is why, for my activism focus, I chose to work with exmormon populations. Because for all the dysfunctional ways we were conditioned to be, we were also instilled with a fire. Helping exmormons (and open-minded progressive Mormons) dump the dysfunctional baggage frees us up to be a real force for good in this world. We gave a majority of our time and money to the LDS Church, so when we stop doing that, our energies are free to go elsewhere.
One note on the geopolitics of the situation: unlike other brands of Christianity in the US, the LDS Church is interestingly torn on the immigration issue, because outside of the USA, their majority membership is in Latin America.
I've got one more thing to say about top-level leadership, next post.
Archive:
Original (paywalled still):
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2026/02/03/how-latter-day-saints-la-responded/
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@corbden they still absolutely can NOT be trusted. Do not trust the Mormons. They are a freaky, modern, racist, misogynistic, apocalypse death cult.
@BetaCuck4Lyfe @corbden this is a mean thing to say to an exmo, who almost certainly still has friends and family inside the church, and who is definitely acutely aware of the darker side of the faith.
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Wow. See here is why I love the Mormon people. When they end up cutting past the propaganda that keeps them hampered, they show up with the kind of energy and moral correctness that we were taught to have, that surpasses any modern church I've ever seen.
LDS Corp has left the ICE issue up to individual wards to decide. The wards that have decided to protect their own are *going hard*. This is a fantastic model for mutual aid. This is some City of Enoch level bravery and righteousness.
They're protesting detention centers, holding services online, locking down church entrances against potential ICE raids, planning escape routes, providing information about rights and how to handle ICE, feeding people, picking up kids,
“It is my divine obligation to … be politically aware and pass along information,” [Osorio Reyes] said, “to make sure the people in my ward are informed and safe.”
The Stake President is collecting extra fast offerings to help affected families with material needs.
This is the shit I was raised on. This is the shit I was told we were to be doing. And then... we simply never did. Our energies were redirected to useless time-wasters, and more priority was placed on "sexual" righteousness and whether or not someone drank Coke. Our minds were filled with barely coded racist interpretations of the world.
This is why, for my activism focus, I chose to work with exmormon populations. Because for all the dysfunctional ways we were conditioned to be, we were also instilled with a fire. Helping exmormons (and open-minded progressive Mormons) dump the dysfunctional baggage frees us up to be a real force for good in this world. We gave a majority of our time and money to the LDS Church, so when we stop doing that, our energies are free to go elsewhere.
One note on the geopolitics of the situation: unlike other brands of Christianity in the US, the LDS Church is interestingly torn on the immigration issue, because outside of the USA, their majority membership is in Latin America.
I've got one more thing to say about top-level leadership, next post.
Archive:
Original (paywalled still):
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2026/02/03/how-latter-day-saints-la-responded/
From the story: 'A year ago, the Trump administration repealed previous guidelines that generally prevented law enforcement officers from entering churches in search of immigrants lacking permanent legal status. A few days after the announcement, the church’s governing First Presidency stated that church buildings “should not be used to help shield individuals from law enforcement.”'
ahem.
*cracks knuckles*
[Warning: Yelling incoming.]
THEN WHY THE FUCK IN CASES OF SEXUAL ABUSE DO YOU OFFICIALLY COUNSEL BISHOPS TO ONLY INFORM LAW ENFORCEMENT IF STATE LAW REQUIRES IT???
Fucking fucking fuck. What a bunch of abject racist authoritarian pedo-harboring cowards.
So in honor of this occasion, I will link to the FLOODLIT database, a record of the hundreds of *documented* sexual abuse cases that have been enabled and/or covered up by the LDS Church:
And The Mormon Alliance Case Reports, which were reporting on this systemic issue in the 1990s (for which its author was excommunicated):
https://mormon-alliance.org/casereports/volume1/v1.htm
And my own testimony that I have read or heard literally *thousands* of personal sexual abuse stories that happened within LDS contexts where either secrecy was passively maintained due to the high levels of shame created by Church rhetoric, or was actively maintained by official leadership decisions, which include, among other things, punishing victims, letting perps go, and placing perps back into positions of power or over new potential victims. I have sourced these stories from memoirs, many forums including Reddit, Facebook, or been personally told these stories, even while still LDS.
The LDS Church is a sex abuse factory, and this quote from the Church really fucking pisses me off. We can't possibly use the church to shield individuals whose only crime is existing in an unauthorized location, but by hell, if you hurt kids, well, it's game on boys!
Prophet Oaks full on agreeing with Donald "Epstein" Trump, says "Throw 'em to the pigs!"
You'll never find any top LDS leadership in the Epstein files because they don't need his overpriced island. They've got one of their own, right in the open in Utah!
After all this time, 25 years out, I don't think the SA issue in the LDS Church will ever not absolutely enrage me.
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@BetaCuck4Lyfe @corbden this is a mean thing to say to an exmo, who almost certainly still has friends and family inside the church, and who is definitely acutely aware of the darker side of the faith.
Thanks for rushing to my defense, Doug.
Like yeah, I *literally* wrote the book on the dark side of Mormonism, comparing it to other cults, unpacking why they are like that, and how most of us were conditioned to be like that, and how we can unconditioned ourselves to be otherwise. Few people have looked as deeply into the dark deeds done by the LDS Church as I have (as my next post in the thread goes just a tiny bit into), but I lay the blame 100% at the feet of leadership, where it belongs. The vast majority of rank and file members are doing their best, and more often than not, ourselves suffering under the undue influence that fucks us up pretty badly.
Maybe take a step back, sir.
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@corbden the immigration schism may also be due in part to a good portion of the membership inside the US having memories of being an immigrant, while serving their missions abroad.
@dougwade Yes, while I think the LDS mission program gives a lot of privileged people some filtered views of the areas they serve, and many end up with white savior complexes, there is the positive benefit of exposing them to other cultural points of view, and gives them empathy for the kinds of people that other forces in this country are trying so strongly to dehumanize. It's hard to lie about the people of a country to people who have lived in that country. Those messages haven't landed as hard on my family, especially since my nephew met his wife on his mission and now lives in Argentina. At this point, they're all denying even having ever liked Trump at all.
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@dougwade Yes, while I think the LDS mission program gives a lot of privileged people some filtered views of the areas they serve, and many end up with white savior complexes, there is the positive benefit of exposing them to other cultural points of view, and gives them empathy for the kinds of people that other forces in this country are trying so strongly to dehumanize. It's hard to lie about the people of a country to people who have lived in that country. Those messages haven't landed as hard on my family, especially since my nephew met his wife on his mission and now lives in Argentina. At this point, they're all denying even having ever liked Trump at all.
@corbden for me, nothing has brought me more empathy for people living in the US who struggle to speak English than living in Russia and struggling to speak Russian. I know how baffling it can be to navigate the immigration system, because I filed visas and registration for scores of missionaries. Turns out, talking to government officials about foreign laws in a foreign language is hard, and those who struggle aren’t lazy. The immigrant experience isn’t unique to any one culture.
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From the story: 'A year ago, the Trump administration repealed previous guidelines that generally prevented law enforcement officers from entering churches in search of immigrants lacking permanent legal status. A few days after the announcement, the church’s governing First Presidency stated that church buildings “should not be used to help shield individuals from law enforcement.”'
ahem.
*cracks knuckles*
[Warning: Yelling incoming.]
THEN WHY THE FUCK IN CASES OF SEXUAL ABUSE DO YOU OFFICIALLY COUNSEL BISHOPS TO ONLY INFORM LAW ENFORCEMENT IF STATE LAW REQUIRES IT???
Fucking fucking fuck. What a bunch of abject racist authoritarian pedo-harboring cowards.
So in honor of this occasion, I will link to the FLOODLIT database, a record of the hundreds of *documented* sexual abuse cases that have been enabled and/or covered up by the LDS Church:
And The Mormon Alliance Case Reports, which were reporting on this systemic issue in the 1990s (for which its author was excommunicated):
https://mormon-alliance.org/casereports/volume1/v1.htm
And my own testimony that I have read or heard literally *thousands* of personal sexual abuse stories that happened within LDS contexts where either secrecy was passively maintained due to the high levels of shame created by Church rhetoric, or was actively maintained by official leadership decisions, which include, among other things, punishing victims, letting perps go, and placing perps back into positions of power or over new potential victims. I have sourced these stories from memoirs, many forums including Reddit, Facebook, or been personally told these stories, even while still LDS.
The LDS Church is a sex abuse factory, and this quote from the Church really fucking pisses me off. We can't possibly use the church to shield individuals whose only crime is existing in an unauthorized location, but by hell, if you hurt kids, well, it's game on boys!
Prophet Oaks full on agreeing with Donald "Epstein" Trump, says "Throw 'em to the pigs!"
You'll never find any top LDS leadership in the Epstein files because they don't need his overpriced island. They've got one of their own, right in the open in Utah!
After all this time, 25 years out, I don't think the SA issue in the LDS Church will ever not absolutely enrage me.
Do what is right, let the consequence follow.
Such a banger of a hymn that is seldom lived up to
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