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I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

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  • Talia VayasT Talia Vayas

    @Impossible_PhD
    I left Florida! Now in Arizona, but it's not safe either. Probably going to Pennsylvania in a few months.

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    @talvayas @Impossible_PhD Pennsylvania is safe-ish, for now, but the lower house of the legislature has a 1-seat Dem majority and the upper house managed to block critical funding for public transit that nearly crippled the entire state in a blatant attempt to hurt minorities, so be careful here. We also have two Republicans in the Senate, even if one is cosplaying as a Dem for the lols (Fetterman).

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    • That Frisian Girl-ishT That Frisian Girl-ish

      @screwturn@mastodon.social I've got someone from Colorado sitting on the couch beside me who thought, moving in the US only gets me more US, and fled on a cook's pay and ridiculous overtime to Germany in 2021, because she wasn't about to wait out the shitshow that was about to come. @Impossible_PhD@hachyderm.io

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      @thatfrisiangirlish @screwturn @Impossible_PhD We left in 2017 for the same reasons. I regret only not being able to drag vulnerable friends with us.

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      • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

        I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

        Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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        @Impossible_PhD Alt text: impact
        Over 400,000 transgender people have fled their home states for safer ones since the 2024 election
        1/8
        This marks one of the largest domestic relocations in modern U.S. history.

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        • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

          I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

          Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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          @Impossible_PhD forcing specific groups of people to move away under threat... that's one of the definitions of genocide, isn't it

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          • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

            I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

            Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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            @Impossible_PhD ⬆️ happy to offer a below market rent for a concerned party who wants to take over my apartment in nyc

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            • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

              I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

              Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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              @Impossible_PhD US law and policies against trans people do qualify as Genocide under Geneva Convention's definition. Sadly it is neither the first nor the last one happening under US auspice. Having some of our worst leaders pinning after US right wing drift and post-democracy decline is one of the things that steals the peace from my sleep

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              • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

                @eruonna "The South" isn't all the south--its the Civil War South, so it's not inclusive of, like, TX, OK, NV, and a bunch of other states that are high risk. I added The South and the American Non-Pacific Southwest together to try and be a little more accurate.

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                @Impossible_PhD @eruonna

                Net migration from Texas alone would be staggering, I think. (Edited to add: Because it's big, highly populated, and one of the worst states for trans rights and getting worse FAST)

                I'm one of them. And I know several more trans folks that left before me, several that left after me, and several more planning to move within the next year.

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                • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

                  I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                  Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                  @Impossible_PhD #Alt4You image description (you may be able to update your post to make it more accessible): "Over 400,000 transgender people have fled their home states for safer ones since the 2024 election

                  This marks one of the largest domestic relocations in modern U.S. history."

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                  • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

                    I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                    Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                    @Impossible_PhD Where does this number come from? Could you please provide a source? (I've read the article linked further in the thread but the survey data seems to be older)

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                    • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

                      I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                      Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                      @Impossible_PhD

                      That list keeps growing. I might be moving within a month or two after I started pursuing the most awesome opportunity last week and it is getting real 🥰

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                      • liloL lilo

                        @Impossible_PhD Where does this number come from? Could you please provide a source? (I've read the article linked further in the thread but the survey data seems to be older)

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                        @lilo Which number? The USTS is easily googlable, and the 400,000 number broke a few days ago, so that's easily googlable too.

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                        • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

                          I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                          Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                          @Impossible_PhD raises hand partner and I moved from "purple state" to "blue state" December 2024...

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                          • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

                            @lilo Which number? The USTS is easily googlable, and the 400,000 number broke a few days ago, so that's easily googlable too.

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                            @Impossible_PhD I mean a source for the statement "Over 400,000 transgender people have fled their home states for safer ones since the 2024 election". Found it now, for other readers: https://www.mapresearch.org/2025-norc-survey-report

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                            • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

                              I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                              Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                              @Impossible_PhD I would've left the US faster if I could. I had to leave for the States midway through immigrating, got denied entry, and had to start the process from scratch in the US. Given that I'm literally just waiting on the PR card, I might have been able to be a card-carrying immigrant before 2025 ended if that didn't happen.

                              I lived in Chicago previously since 2017. Were it not for the way the election went and the federal policy changes, I would've died, ideally of old age, in Chicago. The city saved my life, but I got tired of being a Cassandra after over a year of begging every trans person I had interactions with to take this shit seriously, to prepare to either flee or face literal warfare.

                              While I may have been wrong about warfare, that's mostly because I overestimated how violent the response to what ICE is doing would be.

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                              • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

                                I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                                Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                                @Impossible_PhD and, of course, a lot of us fled those states long ago for broadly similar reasons and thus don't appear in this number. the true amount of displacement is even larger. it's a profound indictment of the country and its dominant cultures.

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                                • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

                                  I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                                  Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                                  @Impossible_PhD #ALT4you

                                  Image tile. One sees two keys and a Trans Pride flag key fob on a keyring. The emphasized caption above the keyring reads: "Over 400.000 transgender people have fled their home states for safer ones since the 2024 election"

                                  Another caption under the keyring reads: This marks one of the largest domestic relocations in modern U.S. history.

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                                  • Eira TanseyT Eira Tansey

                                    @Impossible_PhD Hopefully future studies try to gauge the distance (i.e. miles) and typical migration patterns of these moves. I'm thinking of how a lot of studies of climate change related internal movement often show that people typically move to the nearest perceived safe location, and the Great Migration itself had a lot of "typical" migration routes (e.g., I seem to recall that the Black migrants to Chicago and New York typically came from different parts of the South).

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                                    @TeamMidwest @Impossible_PhD if you're tracking moves between states, yes that makes a lot of sense. For those moving counties it's really a lottery as to which places will take you, based on family history and age and what work skills you may have

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                                    • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

                                      And, like any mass-migration, the folks moving first are those most able to. People with money, family, connections--this migration is ***noooooot*** over.

                                      If this keeps up, percentage-wise, it may be the most rapid non-forced (ie Trail of Tears) mass-migration in American history.

                                      I could absolutely be wrong here, to be clear. If I am, I'd appreciate any sociologists or historians popping in to correct me.

                                      But over 12% of a demographic fleeing a region in a year is beyond flabbergasting to me.

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                                      @Impossible_PhD This is what happens when people have to either flee or fight an openly announced genocide.

                                      My trans friends are fighting a war of survival and I stand with them. I know if they are defeated nonmonagamous Gay and Bi men like myself are next in line. As I warn my partners, the time to fight is NOW.

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                                      • Oinak :ruby:O Oinak :ruby:

                                        @Impossible_PhD US law and policies against trans people do qualify as Genocide under Geneva Convention's definition. Sadly it is neither the first nor the last one happening under US auspice. Having some of our worst leaders pinning after US right wing drift and post-democracy decline is one of the things that steals the peace from my sleep

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                                        @oinak @Impossible_PhD Remember that Naziism got the idea for the Holocaust from the genocide of Indigenous people here.

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                                        • Doc ImpossibleI Doc Impossible

                                          I think this is one of those things that's stunning, in all the worst ways, and most of them aren't obvious.

                                          Let's start with the basics: there are about 5.5 million trans Americans. This means that *nearly 10% of the entire trans population of the nation* has moved.

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                                          @Impossible_PhD

                                          I was lucky, born and raised in California. Came out late in life, 22 years ago I came out at work. Being trans is not easy, 3/4 of the Trans people I knew are now dead from suicide or drug overdoses. The only advice I can give is to get all your documents drivers license, birth certificate and your financials in order, new name and sex, the last document I need is my passport.

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