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  3. Reasons for optimism at the turn of the year: reflections on the fediverses, the ATmosphere, and whatever comes next

Reasons for optimism at the turn of the year: reflections on the fediverses, the ATmosphere, and whatever comes next

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  • Jeremiah GanderM Jeremiah Gander

    @thenexusofprivacy Accurate, weird information about things I didn't know I would care about.

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    The Nexus of Privacy
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    @mildlyunreasonable great phrasing!

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    • Melissa SantosA Melissa Santos

      @Matt_Noyes @CaitlinWaddick @hollie @edumerco @dphiffer @django @sam @ktoddbrown @MarieVC Fwiw, my understanding is that fedi groups basically boost things that mention them, not an alert. You would get the same effect (non privately) from following a hashtag. Also since they work by boosting, i don’t think you can have private groups

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      @ansate @Matt_Noyes @CaitlinWaddick @edumerco @dphiffer @django @sam @ktoddbrown @MarieVC My understanding is the same, I don't think there's a way to make it private. Can Bonfire do that?

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      • HollieH Hollie

        @ansate @Matt_Noyes @CaitlinWaddick @edumerco @dphiffer @django @sam @ktoddbrown @MarieVC My understanding is the same, I don't think there's a way to make it private. Can Bonfire do that?

        Sam WhitedS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #33

        @hollie @ansate @Matt_Noyes @CaitlinWaddick @edumerco @dphiffer @django @ktoddbrown @MarieVC I use them for a few other things (#BikeNite, mostly). They're always public, but the benefit over hashtags is that you get *every* post to the group, even if you're not normally federated with the server of the user who posts it. You can also use alerting rules (ie. always show a notification when this user posts or what not) which I don't think you can do with hash tags

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        • HollieH Hollie

          @ansate @Matt_Noyes @CaitlinWaddick @edumerco @dphiffer @django @sam @ktoddbrown @MarieVC My understanding is the same, I don't think there's a way to make it private. Can Bonfire do that?

          Eduardo Mercovich (él)E This user is from outside of this forum
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          #34

          @hollie @ansate @Matt_Noyes @CaitlinWaddick @dphiffer @django @sam @ktoddbrown @MarieVC
          I think that is, using circles.

          But don't we have already zulip for this? 🙂

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          • Sam WhitedS Sam Whited

            @hollie @ansate @Matt_Noyes @CaitlinWaddick @edumerco @dphiffer @django @ktoddbrown @MarieVC I use them for a few other things (#BikeNite, mostly). They're always public, but the benefit over hashtags is that you get *every* post to the group, even if you're not normally federated with the server of the user who posts it. You can also use alerting rules (ie. always show a notification when this user posts or what not) which I don't think you can do with hash tags

            Melissa SantosA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @sam @hollie @Matt_Noyes @CaitlinWaddick @edumerco @dphiffer @django @ktoddbrown @MarieVC Thanks Sam! I forgot about federation making you miss hashtags. And i should look into alerting rules

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            • The Nexus of PrivacyT The Nexus of Privacy

              What are you looking for in social media? (2/N)

              It's not just a rhetorical question, I really am curious!

              You can respond with a reply to this post, via the pol.is conversation here, or -- if you're on fedi -- in the polls below. I'll write up the results later this month.

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              @thenexusofprivacy where are ya publishing the findings?

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              • R Risotto Bias

                @thenexusofprivacy where are ya publishing the findings?

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                @risottobias on https://thenexusofprivacy.net , and I'll shere them here as well

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                • The Nexus of PrivacyT The Nexus of Privacy

                  What are you looking for in social media? (8/N)

                  Another poll in the series ... you can check more than one response, and if you've got other suggestions please leave them in the replies.

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                  What are you looking for in social media? (9/N)

                  Thanks everybody for the responses so far, here's a couple of new polls including some excellent suggestions that came in. If you've got other ideas, share them in the comments here -- or in the pol.is conversation (which also lets you disagree with stuff you don't want)

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                  • The Nexus of PrivacyT The Nexus of Privacy

                    What are you looking for in social media? (9/N)

                    Thanks everybody for the responses so far, here's a couple of new polls including some excellent suggestions that came in. If you've got other ideas, share them in the comments here -- or in the pol.is conversation (which also lets you disagree with stuff you don't want)

                    The Nexus of PrivacyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #39

                    What are you looking for in social media? (10/N)

                    Another poll in the series ... you can choose more than one response, and if you've got other suggestions please leave them in the replies.

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                    • The Nexus of PrivacyT The Nexus of Privacy

                      What are you looking for in social media? (10/N)

                      Another poll in the series ... you can choose more than one response, and if you've got other suggestions please leave them in the replies.

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                      What are you looking for in social media? (11/11, for now)

                      Whew, that's a lot of polls. But I'm sure there are options I didn't include, feel free to make suggestions in the responses! And if you're looking for another way to respond, check out the pol.is conversation in the post here

                      The polls are still open for a few days ... after that, I'll write up the results -- along with (in at least some cases) suggestions about where to find what you're looking for -- and publish them on https://thenexusofprivacy.net

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                      • The Nexus of PrivacyT The Nexus of Privacy

                        What are you looking for in social media? (10/N)

                        Another poll in the series ... you can choose more than one response, and if you've got other suggestions please leave them in the replies.

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                        @thenexusofprivacy a place that takes constant and aggressive actions to avoid anti-blackness and misogyny, with a clear safety team to handle it when it happens.

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                        • The Nexus of PrivacyT The Nexus of Privacy

                          What are you looking for in social media? (10/N)

                          Another poll in the series ... you can choose more than one response, and if you've got other suggestions please leave them in the replies.

                          The Nexus of PrivacyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          The Nexus of Privacy
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                          #42

                          What are you looking for in social media? (11/N)

                          Another poll in the series ... you can choose more than one response, and if you've got other suggestions please leave them in the replies.

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                          • The Nexus of PrivacyT The Nexus of Privacy

                            What are you looking for in social media? (11/N)

                            Another poll in the series ... you can choose more than one response, and if you've got other suggestions please leave them in the replies.

                            The Nexus of PrivacyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            The Nexus of Privacy
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                            What are you looking for in social media? (12/12, for now)

                            Whew, that's a lot of polls. But I'm sure there are options I didn't include, feel free to make suggestions in the responses! And if you're looking for another way to respond, check out the pol.is conversation in the post here

                            The polls are still open for a few days ... after that, I'll write up the results -- along with (in at least some cases) suggestions about where to find what you're looking for -- and publish them on https://thenexusofprivacy.net

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                            • Ericka SimoneE Ericka Simone

                              @thenexusofprivacy a place that takes constant and aggressive actions to avoid anti-blackness and misogyny, with a clear safety team to handle it when it happens.

                              The Nexus of PrivacyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #44

                              Great suggestion. I had to split it into two responses because of the maximum length -- it's the first two in https://infosec.exchange/@thenexusofprivacy/115843753929752441

                              @ErickaSimone

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                              • HollieH Hollie

                                @ansate @Matt_Noyes @CaitlinWaddick @edumerco @dphiffer @django @sam @ktoddbrown @MarieVC My understanding is the same, I don't think there's a way to make it private. Can Bonfire do that?

                                The Nexus of PrivacyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Bonfire has groups on their roadmap but doesn't currently implement them (although Circles let you do some group-like things). A broadly-available approximation to private Facebook groups would be a huge plus for fedi. Here's a distillation of some requirements-gathering work I did early last year.

                                Anyhow I included a couple of questions relevant to this in one of the new polls at https://infosec.exchange/@thenexusofprivacy/115843753929752441

                                • Something to replace "buy nothing" Facebook groups

                                • Discussions with people in my neighborhood (without Nextdoor's racism)

                                • Discussions that aren't public for the whole world to see

                                @hollie @ansate @Matt_Noyes @CaitlinWaddick @edumerco @dphiffer @django @sam @ktoddbrown @MarieVC

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                                • The Nexus of PrivacyT The Nexus of Privacy

                                  Great suggestion. I had to split it into two responses because of the maximum length -- it's the first two in https://infosec.exchange/@thenexusofprivacy/115843753929752441

                                  @ErickaSimone

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                                  @thenexusofprivacy appreciate that. Yeah safety is an issue for most sites that most people ignore. That is what I’m looking for, primarily. Less mansplaining comes in a close second. lol.

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                                  • The Nexus of PrivacyT The Nexus of Privacy

                                    What are you looking for in social media? (10/N)

                                    Another poll in the series ... you can choose more than one response, and if you've got other suggestions please leave them in the replies.

                                    WarmasterPalakW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @thenexusofprivacy

                                    No AI, no capitulation to Big Information, end to end encryption without backdoors, and warrant canaries published monthly. Our governments are the problem. Corporations are the problem. Capitalism is the problem. You are a customer, not a product.

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                                    • The Nexus of PrivacyT The Nexus of Privacy

                                      What are you looking for in social media? (10/N)

                                      Another poll in the series ... you can choose more than one response, and if you've got other suggestions please leave them in the replies.

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                                      lupus_blackfur
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                                      @thenexusofprivacy

                                      Eh...

                                      Not really "long posts with no character limits"...

                                      Just maybe twice the chars I'm allowed on my current Mastodon instance.

                                      Don't need to get crazy but once in a while I'm a touch constrained...

                                      🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤔

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                                      • lupus_blackfurL lupus_blackfur

                                        @thenexusofprivacy

                                        Eh...

                                        Not really "long posts with no character limits"...

                                        Just maybe twice the chars I'm allowed on my current Mastodon instance.

                                        Don't need to get crazy but once in a while I'm a touch constrained...

                                        🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤔

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                                        @lupus_blackfur fair enough. "no character limits" was the way the suggestion that came in was worded.

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                                        • The Nexus of PrivacyT The Nexus of Privacy

                                          @lupus_blackfur fair enough. "no character limits" was the way the suggestion that came in was worded.

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                                          @thenexusofprivacy

                                          Oh, I've no doubt...

                                          Not criticizing, not complaining, just clarifying my personal view on that option.

                                          I'm sure I don't need/want "unlimited", just a bit more would be nice in some infrequent instances.

                                          🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤔

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