I know this #Discord nonsense has a lot of people searching for alternatives (like Matrix, Stoat, etc), and those alternatives have a chance to shine right now.
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I know this #Discord nonsense has a lot of people searching for alternatives (like Matrix, Stoat, etc), and those alternatives have a chance to shine right now. BUT we need to go back to discussions and knowledge being searchable on the open web!
I say bring back the forums. It's time.
@killyourfm if forums make a comeback we need to make sure they have full text RSS support as well so that people can follow stuff without needing to go to the site or log in all the time. I hope RSS is making a comeback as well, been using that for a few years now
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@killyourfm This is one of my favorite topics for research, and I've been on-and-off spending a lot of time on it lately. #Matrix is my favorite with its third-party clients but is much different an animal.
@myTerminal @killyourfm
I've been looking at https://peergos.org/
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I know this #Discord nonsense has a lot of people searching for alternatives (like Matrix, Stoat, etc), and those alternatives have a chance to shine right now. BUT we need to go back to discussions and knowledge being searchable on the open web!
I say bring back the forums. It's time.
@killyourfm Across all use-cases like being able to communicate 1-on-1, broadcast messages to your group, being able to share thoughts with the "web", and more, what often ends up happening, at least for me, is that I keep an account at all of these places, because you can't convince people to switch over, and you have to be where your audience is.
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I know this #Discord nonsense has a lot of people searching for alternatives (like Matrix, Stoat, etc), and those alternatives have a chance to shine right now. BUT we need to go back to discussions and knowledge being searchable on the open web!
I say bring back the forums. It's time.
@killyourfm The future of IM and forum discussion need to be re-decoupled like it should be, I don't want discussions of how to properly fit a bike tire to be on the same app I'm live reacting to Bad Bunny at the Halftime Show on.
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@killyourfm if forums make a comeback we need to make sure they have full text RSS support as well so that people can follow stuff without needing to go to the site or log in all the time. I hope RSS is making a comeback as well, been using that for a few years now
@GlitchGhost Between AI and enshittification, It definitely feels like the right time to being back the gold standards from the classic web, especially RSS!
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@myTerminal @killyourfm
I've been looking at https://peergos.org/
Might start self hosting it at home. Looks promising...@kaosk @killyourfm I do not know, but it somehow reminds me of #Keybase, which had one of my close circles convinced and we had to deal with difficult-to-use clients that were an overkill for merely sharing text messages, a few pictures here and there.
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@killyourfm Across all use-cases like being able to communicate 1-on-1, broadcast messages to your group, being able to share thoughts with the "web", and more, what often ends up happening, at least for me, is that I keep an account at all of these places, because you can't convince people to switch over, and you have to be where your audience is.
@myTerminal That's heartbreakingly true, and as someone who has built and managed many communities, I totally get it. It just sucks because the communities get more and more fragmented.
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@myTerminal That's heartbreakingly true, and as someone who has built and managed many communities, I totally get it. It just sucks because the communities get more and more fragmented.
@killyourfm And because I am usually that one person who is often heard talking about "the next perfect" platform for the group, people tend to start ignoring me after a couple of "painful" switches, eventually going back to their #WhatsApp groups.
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@myTerminal That's heartbreakingly true, and as someone who has built and managed many communities, I totally get it. It just sucks because the communities get more and more fragmented.
@killyourfm And again, the scale of the "micro" communities I've built isn't even remotely comparable to yours.
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Gardiner and I discussed this, reigniting his forum. But...we've ended up on Matrix
@flwwhtrbt Honestly, that's a bummer. There's still a fairly tall barrier to entry for quote/unquote normal users. Also, when I worked at Thunderbird, I can't tell you how many times we all ended up on Slack (our backup) because the Matrix instance was either down or not syncing or otherwise borked.
Not to mention using it on multiple devices can be a serious pain point.
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