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  • Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Jürgen Hubert
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    @jbenjamint @cstross @david @stevendbrewer @jsl @bweller

    Yeah, but in a weird quirk of American service culture, a lot of American shopper expect service people to be _servile_. "The customer is always right!", and all that.

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    • J JdeBP

      @david

      Pales in comparison to how spectacularly #Walmart failed in #Germany.

      The U.S.A. management managed to fall afoul of regulations that were meant to prevent the Stasi from happening again.

      They instituted policies of forced smiling at customers, group cheer sessions, and employees required to report any employees who dated other employees.

      Reporting on people's personal lives to the authorities is a bit of a no-no in modern Germany.

      https://www.ft.com/content/4d85393c-ddd6-11d9-a42f-00000e2511c8

      @cstross @stevendbrewer

      Lars HanssonR This user is from outside of this forum
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      @JdeBP @david @cstross @stevendbrewer I am reminded of when UPS started up in Germany and used brown uniforms.

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        @david

        Pales in comparison to how spectacularly #Walmart failed in #Germany.

        The U.S.A. management managed to fall afoul of regulations that were meant to prevent the Stasi from happening again.

        They instituted policies of forced smiling at customers, group cheer sessions, and employees required to report any employees who dated other employees.

        Reporting on people's personal lives to the authorities is a bit of a no-no in modern Germany.

        https://www.ft.com/content/4d85393c-ddd6-11d9-a42f-00000e2511c8

        @cstross @stevendbrewer

        FeòragF This user is from outside of this forum
        FeòragF This user is from outside of this forum
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        @JdeBP @david @cstross @stevendbrewer Paywalled.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          @stevendbrewer Hey, this is the UK! We have Tesco here. (WalMart tried to break into the supermarket biz, bought ASDA—the third-ranked chain—and made a big noise. A few years later they ran weeping to the anti-trust people. Then they gave up, sold most of their stake in ASDA, and got out. Retailing in the UK is hardcore!)

          George BG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @stevendbrewer @cstross

          I know that Walmart still have ASDA's George brand of clothes because the fuckers registered the .george TLD and don't let anyone register on it.

          https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/george.html

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          • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

            @jbenjamint @cstross @david @stevendbrewer @jsl @bweller

            Yeah, but in a weird quirk of American service culture, a lot of American shopper expect service people to be _servile_. "The customer is always right!", and all that.

            Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
            Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
            Charlie Stross
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            @juergen_hubert @jbenjamint @david @stevendbrewer @jsl @bweller There was a chunk of that in UK retail culture when I worked in shops in the 80s, but it manifested itself differently.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              @stevendbrewer Ah, so that's what American X-ers drink instead of scrumpy!

              AdministratorM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cstross @stevendbrewer Very close, at least in use! But even the worse scrumpy is made with more love than Boone's Farm.

              Boone's Farm is basically Kool-aid mixed with a small amount of pure ethanol. Absolutely no love in it at all.

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              • Steven D. Brewer 🏳️‍⚧️S Steven D. Brewer 🏳️‍⚧️

                @cstross And, just for reference, Target (pronounced "targé") is where Walmart shoppers go when they want to feel upscale. If you really want to experience the true depths of despair, go to Ocean State Job Lot, which is stocked with stuff that didn't sell anywhere else. Or was returned. https://www.oceanstatejoblot.com/

                JonO This user is from outside of this forum
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                @stevendbrewer @cstross as a former resident of the Former US, I will say that I was at least *willing* to go into Target, because it was far more civilized, people controlled their children, and the employees generally did not seem in existential despair.

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                • AdministratorM Administrator

                  @cstross @stevendbrewer Very close, at least in use! But even the worse scrumpy is made with more love than Boone's Farm.

                  Boone's Farm is basically Kool-aid mixed with a small amount of pure ethanol. Absolutely no love in it at all.

                  Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Charlie Stross
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                  @mdm @stevendbrewer Whereas scrumpy is made with love and also scrumpy isn't ready to drink until the rat who drowned in the vat has fully dissolved.

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                  • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                    @jbenjamint @cstross @david @stevendbrewer @jsl @bweller

                    Yeah, but in a weird quirk of American service culture, a lot of American shopper expect service people to be _servile_. "The customer is always right!", and all that.

                    farhaven 🇪🇺F This user is from outside of this forum
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                    farhaven 🇪🇺
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                    @juergen_hubert Funny thing about that, the complete saying goes something like "The customer is always right _in matters of taste_".

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                    • J JdeBP

                      @david

                      Pales in comparison to how spectacularly #Walmart failed in #Germany.

                      The U.S.A. management managed to fall afoul of regulations that were meant to prevent the Stasi from happening again.

                      They instituted policies of forced smiling at customers, group cheer sessions, and employees required to report any employees who dated other employees.

                      Reporting on people's personal lives to the authorities is a bit of a no-no in modern Germany.

                      https://www.ft.com/content/4d85393c-ddd6-11d9-a42f-00000e2511c8

                      @cstross @stevendbrewer

                      CybermatronT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @stevendbrewer @cstross @JdeBP @david Oh, I remember it well. In Germany for “Whistleblower”, read “Denunziant”.

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                      • FeòragF Feòrag

                        @JdeBP @david @cstross @stevendbrewer Paywalled.

                        Jernej Simončič �J This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jernej Simončič �J This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jernej Simončič �
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                        @feorag @JdeBP @david @cstross @stevendbrewer Bypass: https://archive.is/TeuPs (but the article is not very interesting)

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                        • Ryan FinnieR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Ryan Finnie
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                          @TallSimon @stevendbrewer @cstross My contribution to the vibe: Harbor Freight Tools. I describe it as a cross between Trader Joe's and Spirit Halloween. It's got a lot of in-house tool brands and has an "upscale but value" fanaticism similar to Trader Joe's.

                          But the locations themselves always look like they took an old K-Mart carcass which had been sitting there for years, added dividers to make it about 1/4 the area, installed third-hand shelving, hung a HARBOR FREIGHT sign and called it a day. (I'm oddly specific here because there's a location in Reno which did literally that.)

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