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  • ZauberlehrlingR Zauberlehrling

    This was a fun read. I burst out laughing at this statement from Bosch after criticism of their products from @pluralistic

    ‘Worst in Show’ CES products include AI refrigerators, AI companions and AI doorbells

    "earning and keeping trust with our consumers, especially in the areas of privacy and cybersecurity, is at the core of our company’s values.

    #enshitification

    https://apnews.com/article/ces-worst-show-ai-0ce7fbc5aff68e8ff6d7b8e6fb7b007d

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    @rvaughnmd @pluralistic
    This is NOT an appliance that works well in a kitchen party scenario! 🙄

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    • Ride TheoryR Ride Theory

      @rvaughnmd @pluralistic God damn it! I specifically bought a Raleigh ebike with a Bosch electrical system so I could replace all the bike parts with off-the-shelf parts (which I do all the time at my local shop), and I wanted a battery manufacturer that would be in business when I needed a new one (which I did last year).

      Good thing my bike is 5+ years old; I think they can only implement this "feature" for the battery and motor. God forbid I have to buy a Bosch chain or cassette.

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      @ridetheory @rvaughnmd @pluralistic
      The Bosch lock will at least be optional. I think it also sounds like one of those features they might move to the "plus" version of their Flow app.
      I see the point of making parts unappealing to thieves by rending them impossible to reuse, but I'm hoping they thought it through for all scenario.

      (I have a Bosch motor + battery combo too 🤞)

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      • an interesting bean :flow:T an interesting bean :flow:

        @rvaughnmd @pluralistic according to coffee geography magazine:

        > Prior to Alexa Plus, issuing a voice command for a pre-programmed coffee routine via standard Alexa was a relatively reliable affair. Now, the more advanced assistant has shown moments of confusion, failing to consistently execute a basic coffee order. This hiccup underscores a broader industry challenge: while next-gen AI assistants boast vast potential for complex, conversational interaction, they can ironically stumble over the straightforward, programmed commands that defined earlier smart home tech.

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        @timmy @rvaughnmd @pluralistic

        When I was young, we even had coffee makers without Alexa functionality.

        They were rather ingenious, they had 'buttons', little surfaces connected to mechnical levers and an electronic switch.

        As user, you would touch the 'button', and the coffee machine would then execute the associated command.

        I dont know how it worked internally. I suppose they had a little speaker inside next to the Alexa microphone, and it would sound out the command at inaudible volume

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        • ZauberlehrlingR Zauberlehrling

          This was a fun read. I burst out laughing at this statement from Bosch after criticism of their products from @pluralistic

          ‘Worst in Show’ CES products include AI refrigerators, AI companions and AI doorbells

          "earning and keeping trust with our consumers, especially in the areas of privacy and cybersecurity, is at the core of our company’s values.

          #enshitification

          https://apnews.com/article/ces-worst-show-ai-0ce7fbc5aff68e8ff6d7b8e6fb7b007d

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          @rvaughnmd @pluralistic

          the fridge that also uses computer vision to track when food items are running low and can advertise replacements.


          "Advertise"!? That's not how this was supposed to go. The smart fridge is supposed to remind you, maybe add your preferred product to your shopping list or next groceries order, not take this as an opportunity to spam you with ads.

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          • ZauberlehrlingR Zauberlehrling

            This was a fun read. I burst out laughing at this statement from Bosch after criticism of their products from @pluralistic

            ‘Worst in Show’ CES products include AI refrigerators, AI companions and AI doorbells

            "earning and keeping trust with our consumers, especially in the areas of privacy and cybersecurity, is at the core of our company’s values.

            #enshitification

            https://apnews.com/article/ces-worst-show-ai-0ce7fbc5aff68e8ff6d7b8e6fb7b007d

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            @rvaughnmd @pluralistic why yes, I would love to see ads on my coffee machine at 5 in the morning! #not

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            • Martijn VosM Martijn Vos

              @rvaughnmd @pluralistic

              the fridge that also uses computer vision to track when food items are running low and can advertise replacements.


              "Advertise"!? That's not how this was supposed to go. The smart fridge is supposed to remind you, maybe add your preferred product to your shopping list or next groceries order, not take this as an opportunity to spam you with ads.

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              @mcv
              "Smart" has been redefined as "having an effective ability to sell you shit" over the almost 2 decades since the first doom rectangle (so-called "smart"phone) launched.
              @pluralistic @rvaughnmd

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              • Martijn VosM Martijn Vos

                @rvaughnmd @pluralistic

                the fridge that also uses computer vision to track when food items are running low and can advertise replacements.


                "Advertise"!? That's not how this was supposed to go. The smart fridge is supposed to remind you, maybe add your preferred product to your shopping list or next groceries order, not take this as an opportunity to spam you with ads.

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                @mcv@friendica.opensocial.space @rvaughnmd@med-mastodon.com @pluralistic@mamot.fr just because you payed for a product, it doesn't mean they should waste a chance for more profits.
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                • Martijn VosM Martijn Vos

                  @rvaughnmd @pluralistic

                  the fridge that also uses computer vision to track when food items are running low and can advertise replacements.


                  "Advertise"!? That's not how this was supposed to go. The smart fridge is supposed to remind you, maybe add your preferred product to your shopping list or next groceries order, not take this as an opportunity to spam you with ads.

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                  @mcv @pluralistic @rvaughnmd there's more money for the fridge company in getting paid for adverts than doing what the owner of the fridge wants

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                  • Martijn VosM Martijn Vos

                    @rvaughnmd @pluralistic

                    the fridge that also uses computer vision to track when food items are running low and can advertise replacements.


                    "Advertise"!? That's not how this was supposed to go. The smart fridge is supposed to remind you, maybe add your preferred product to your shopping list or next groceries order, not take this as an opportunity to spam you with ads.

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                    @mcv @pluralistic @rvaughnmd

                    Ha, ha, ha.

                    It was always about dara collection and advertising. Always!

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                    • an interesting bean :flow:T an interesting bean :flow:

                      @rvaughnmd @pluralistic according to coffee geography magazine:

                      > Prior to Alexa Plus, issuing a voice command for a pre-programmed coffee routine via standard Alexa was a relatively reliable affair. Now, the more advanced assistant has shown moments of confusion, failing to consistently execute a basic coffee order. This hiccup underscores a broader industry challenge: while next-gen AI assistants boast vast potential for complex, conversational interaction, they can ironically stumble over the straightforward, programmed commands that defined earlier smart home tech.

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                      @timmy @rvaughnmd @pluralistic I am getting so fed up with this kind of reporting.

                      'Ironically, while companies claim that their products are good, they are not.'

                      You can only call this ironic, if you are afraid of stating the obvious. Companies are betting big on a technology that is not panning out. It's not illegal to say it, but you have to acknowledge that something exceptional is happening.

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                      • MopsiM Mopsi

                        @timmy @rvaughnmd @pluralistic I am getting so fed up with this kind of reporting.

                        'Ironically, while companies claim that their products are good, they are not.'

                        You can only call this ironic, if you are afraid of stating the obvious. Companies are betting big on a technology that is not panning out. It's not illegal to say it, but you have to acknowledge that something exceptional is happening.

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                        > it's not illegal to say it

                        ........yet.

                        @Mopsi @timmy @rvaughnmd @pluralistic

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                        • an interesting bean :flow:T an interesting bean :flow:

                          @rvaughnmd @pluralistic according to coffee geography magazine:

                          > Prior to Alexa Plus, issuing a voice command for a pre-programmed coffee routine via standard Alexa was a relatively reliable affair. Now, the more advanced assistant has shown moments of confusion, failing to consistently execute a basic coffee order. This hiccup underscores a broader industry challenge: while next-gen AI assistants boast vast potential for complex, conversational interaction, they can ironically stumble over the straightforward, programmed commands that defined earlier smart home tech.

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                          I had a Google dot for a while cause it was free and my ex wanted it. In no way did I believe it wasn't always listening, but at least it did the shit it was supposed to do. "Hey Google, set a timer" sure! "Hey Google, what's the weather?" It's 72F and cloudy!

                          If you don't care about privacy (as most don't,) it was an amazing freebie. I wouldn't take an ai powered thing even for free, I already have an inconsistent unreliable system - it's called my brain 😂

                          @timmy @rvaughnmd @pluralistic

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                          • ZauberlehrlingR Zauberlehrling

                            This was a fun read. I burst out laughing at this statement from Bosch after criticism of their products from @pluralistic

                            ‘Worst in Show’ CES products include AI refrigerators, AI companions and AI doorbells

                            "earning and keeping trust with our consumers, especially in the areas of privacy and cybersecurity, is at the core of our company’s values.

                            #enshitification

                            https://apnews.com/article/ces-worst-show-ai-0ce7fbc5aff68e8ff6d7b8e6fb7b007d

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                            @rvaughnmd @pluralistic I miss the days when I could buy an actual product instead of a continual relationship with the manufacturer.

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                            • ZauberlehrlingR Zauberlehrling

                              This was a fun read. I burst out laughing at this statement from Bosch after criticism of their products from @pluralistic

                              ‘Worst in Show’ CES products include AI refrigerators, AI companions and AI doorbells

                              "earning and keeping trust with our consumers, especially in the areas of privacy and cybersecurity, is at the core of our company’s values.

                              #enshitification

                              https://apnews.com/article/ces-worst-show-ai-0ce7fbc5aff68e8ff6d7b8e6fb7b007d

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                              @rvaughnmd @pluralistic I think my doorbell is AI. It knows every time someone calls and I don't want to come to the door, and then doesn't ring. It is also broken

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                              • MariusZ Marius

                                @timmy @rvaughnmd @pluralistic

                                When I was young, we even had coffee makers without Alexa functionality.

                                They were rather ingenious, they had 'buttons', little surfaces connected to mechnical levers and an electronic switch.

                                As user, you would touch the 'button', and the coffee machine would then execute the associated command.

                                I dont know how it worked internally. I suppose they had a little speaker inside next to the Alexa microphone, and it would sound out the command at inaudible volume

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                                @Zamfr @timmy @rvaughnmd @pluralistic
                                I still own a 40-cup coffee urn whose only control is the spigot to fill your cup from.

                                You plug it in, a while later a neon light comes on, the coffee is ready.

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                                • Raps CalorieR Raps Calorie

                                  > it's not illegal to say it

                                  ........yet.

                                  @Mopsi @timmy @rvaughnmd @pluralistic

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                                  @rapscalorie @Mopsi @timmy @rvaughnmd @pluralistic I wonder if someone could successfully spin a case of Felony Contempt Of Business Model for getting people to not buy a thing because you truthfully tell them it's crap...
                                  https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2014-05-29

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                                  • ZauberlehrlingR Zauberlehrling

                                    This was a fun read. I burst out laughing at this statement from Bosch after criticism of their products from @pluralistic

                                    ‘Worst in Show’ CES products include AI refrigerators, AI companions and AI doorbells

                                    "earning and keeping trust with our consumers, especially in the areas of privacy and cybersecurity, is at the core of our company’s values.

                                    #enshitification

                                    https://apnews.com/article/ces-worst-show-ai-0ce7fbc5aff68e8ff6d7b8e6fb7b007d

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                                    @rvaughnmd @pluralistic it's a hell of a lot easier to trust something that doesn't keep asking for a WiFi password like a toddler asking for a puppy.

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                                    • craignicolC craignicol

                                      @rvaughnmd @pluralistic it's a hell of a lot easier to trust something that doesn't keep asking for a WiFi password like a toddler asking for a puppy.

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                                      @craignicol @pluralistic

                                      I got enough people plotting against me already, I don't need my appliances planning a coup over my wifi network.

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