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  • Richard LittlerR This user is from outside of this forum
    Richard LittlerR This user is from outside of this forum
    Richard Littler
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    #1

    Does advertising really work?
    Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
    Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
    I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
    And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

    Gary :party_porg:W Alien AnomalyA Dansk404C Jules 🍺J Ben CurthoysB 23 Replies Last reply
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    • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

      Does advertising really work?
      Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
      Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
      I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
      And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

      Gary :party_porg:W This user is from outside of this forum
      Gary :party_porg:W This user is from outside of this forum
      Gary :party_porg:
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      #2

      @Richard_Littler I love how many of the 6music presenters take the piss out of the constant trails for BBC TV and radio shows they have to play, and the endless promotion of iPlayer.

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      • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

        Does advertising really work?
        Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
        Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
        I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
        And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

        Alien AnomalyA This user is from outside of this forum
        Alien AnomalyA This user is from outside of this forum
        Alien Anomaly
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        #3

        @Richard_Littler

        Yes. It does, but not if you don’t see it…obvs.

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        • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

          Does advertising really work?
          Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
          Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
          I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
          And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

          Dansk404C This user is from outside of this forum
          Dansk404C This user is from outside of this forum
          Dansk404
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          #4

          @Richard_Littler is it the old "self-sustaining business model" that the only people who believe advertising works either work in advertising or want to advertise something?

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          • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

            Does advertising really work?
            Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
            Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
            I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
            And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

            Jules 🍺J This user is from outside of this forum
            Jules 🍺J This user is from outside of this forum
            Jules 🍺
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            #5

            @Richard_Littler
            I remember reading a book on effective marketing, they were of the opinion that word of mouth was way more effective than advertising, I've not seen anything that contradicts that since.

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            • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

              Does advertising really work?
              Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
              Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
              I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
              And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

              Ben CurthoysB This user is from outside of this forum
              Ben CurthoysB This user is from outside of this forum
              Ben Curthoys
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              @Richard_Littler it's the "mere exposure" effect.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere-exposure_effect

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              • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                Does advertising really work?
                Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                Fish Id Wardrobe
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                #7

                @Richard_Littler there have been studies that conclude it does not. or: not much.

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                • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                  Does advertising really work?
                  Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                  Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                  I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                  And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                  Bob ThomsonB This user is from outside of this forum
                  Bob ThomsonB This user is from outside of this forum
                  Bob Thomson
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                  #8

                  @Richard_Littler I suppose it’s like phishing attacks. Loads of attacks and a small number of results that make it worth it.

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                  • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                    Does advertising really work?
                    Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                    Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                    I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                    And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                    Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦R This user is from outside of this forum
                    Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦R This user is from outside of this forum
                    Dominic 🇪🇺 🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦
                    wrote last edited by
                    #9

                    @Richard_Littler Much like spam, I assume it must work at least sometimes or people wouldn’t do it. I don’t think I’ve ever bought a product based on a straight-up ad, but I will admit to being influenced by product placement: seeing something used by somebody cool or to do something cool will get me to at least check it out. What actually surprises me is that this channel is not *more* prevalent than it actually is.

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                    • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                      Does advertising really work?
                      Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                      Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                      I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                      And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                      ConcretismC This user is from outside of this forum
                      ConcretismC This user is from outside of this forum
                      Concretism
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                      #10

                      @Richard_Littler Oh yeah, those 'turn off your ad blocker to view this site' messages are hilarious. I'm like 'Ok, fuck off then'.

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                      • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                        Does advertising really work?
                        Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                        Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                        I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                        And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                        Graham DownsG This user is from outside of this forum
                        Graham DownsG This user is from outside of this forum
                        Graham Downs
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                        #11

                        @Richard_Littler It's got to do with the rule-of-thumb that a person needs to be exposed to a message 7 times before they take action. So if you see an add for a product, even without sound, and even for a split second before deliberately turning your attention, that's 1.

                        If you're browsing the web and you catch a banner ad for the same product, that's 2.

                        Reading an article and the author mentions that product in passing (even in a negative light)? That's 3.

                        Driving along the highway and see a billboard for that product, even if you don't consciously take note of it? That's 4.

                        In the supermarket and see that product stacked on the shelf? That's 5 -- but you're not ready to buy, yet.

                        On your way home, you turn on the radio and catch an ad for that product, but by that time you're so sick of hearing about it that you change the channel immediately? That's 6.

                        Turn on the TV and watch a YouTube video, and your ad-blocker fails momentarily and you see an ad for that product? That's 7, even though you spend all your time waiting for the "Skip" button to become enabled.

                        Something happens in your life that means you urgently need something like that product? Now that particular product is the first and perhaps ONLY one that sticks in your mind, it's cheap enough, and you need a solution urgently, so what do you do? You go out and buy that product.

                        Yes. Yes, it works. And it works to the *benefit* of the consumer, too. At least, as a consumer, that's what I've often found. 🙂

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                        • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                          Does advertising really work?
                          Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                          Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                          I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                          And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                          ʙᴇɴ ᴄᴏᴛᴛᴇяɪʟʟB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          ʙᴇɴ ᴄᴏᴛᴛᴇяɪʟʟ
                          wrote last edited by
                          #12

                          @Richard_Littler I seem to remember it’s not about liking the thing or not, it’s knowing about it. Called something like exposure.
                          I remember one day, a big international company were signing a contract with where dad worked.
                          Dad’s place had advertised on billboards all round the pitch at a six nations match at, I presume, a fortune.
                          All this money aimed squarely at 4 business people in the stands on a bit of a jolly.

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                          • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                            Does advertising really work?
                            Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                            Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                            I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                            And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                            Richard   WebbF This user is from outside of this forum
                            Richard   WebbF This user is from outside of this forum
                            Richard Webb
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                            #13

                            @Richard_Littler
                            Most of my ad burden is for things that I have no interest in or are for quacks.

                            Newspaper advertisers should know that I will not accept hundreds of cookies so I will never see their product.

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                            • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                              Does advertising really work?
                              Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                              Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                              I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                              And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                              David :SetouchiExplorer:D This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @Richard_Littler I remember songs from ads from 40 years ago. We like to say that ads don't work on us, but believe me, they do.

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                              • Graham DownsG Graham Downs

                                @Richard_Littler It's got to do with the rule-of-thumb that a person needs to be exposed to a message 7 times before they take action. So if you see an add for a product, even without sound, and even for a split second before deliberately turning your attention, that's 1.

                                If you're browsing the web and you catch a banner ad for the same product, that's 2.

                                Reading an article and the author mentions that product in passing (even in a negative light)? That's 3.

                                Driving along the highway and see a billboard for that product, even if you don't consciously take note of it? That's 4.

                                In the supermarket and see that product stacked on the shelf? That's 5 -- but you're not ready to buy, yet.

                                On your way home, you turn on the radio and catch an ad for that product, but by that time you're so sick of hearing about it that you change the channel immediately? That's 6.

                                Turn on the TV and watch a YouTube video, and your ad-blocker fails momentarily and you see an ad for that product? That's 7, even though you spend all your time waiting for the "Skip" button to become enabled.

                                Something happens in your life that means you urgently need something like that product? Now that particular product is the first and perhaps ONLY one that sticks in your mind, it's cheap enough, and you need a solution urgently, so what do you do? You go out and buy that product.

                                Yes. Yes, it works. And it works to the *benefit* of the consumer, too. At least, as a consumer, that's what I've often found. 🙂

                                Richard   WebbF This user is from outside of this forum
                                Richard   WebbF This user is from outside of this forum
                                Richard Webb
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                                @GrahamDowns @Richard_Littler

                                This is why hitting the x on offensive quack ads encourages more quack ads. More exposure, even though I feel more nauseous next time.

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                                • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                                  Does advertising really work?
                                  Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                                  Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                                  I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                                  And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                                  Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫P This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @Richard_Littler
                                  It's like email spam. 99.9% of it just annoys someone to no purpose, but occasionally it finds a mark to justify the small per-unit expense.

                                  And there's a meta-level scam, which is selling advertising is profitable regardless of whether the advertising works, and selling personal data collected by delivering the ad is profitable regardless of whether the data is useful.

                                  The enshittification is self-fuelling at that point.

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                                  • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                                    Does advertising really work?
                                    Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                                    Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                                    I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                                    And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                                    Patrick H. LaukeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Patrick H. Lauke
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                                    #17

                                    @Richard_Littler i shamefully admit that for a brief period where YouTube stopped working when my ad-blocker was running (the latter has since changed to avoid the detection), i was getting bombarded with ads all the time ... and while generally annoyed by them, i did end up buying one specific cheap gadget that one of those advertised. not proud of it. but yes the general principle still stands - advertising is shouting into the void for the most part

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                                    • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                                      Does advertising really work?
                                      Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                                      Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                                      I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                                      And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                                      Simon dē Gulielmō 🐧S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @Richard_Littler I go by the principle that if you have to annoy people to sell your products, then the products must be shit.

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                                      • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                                        Does advertising really work?
                                        Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                                        Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                                        I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                                        And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                                        RussellZ This user is from outside of this forum
                                        RussellZ This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Russell
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                                        #19

                                        @Richard_Littler I've done screen sharing with coworkers and gotten screenshots from customers and watched various YouTubers do Internet searches ...... Most of them aren't using an ad blocker. Their brains reflexively close or filter out the noise and they assume that's just the way it has to be.

                                        We here on Mastodon have a sample bias, an echo chamber, a filter bubble, or what have you.

                                        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                                        • Richard LittlerR Richard Littler

                                          Does advertising really work?
                                          Everyone I know mutes TV ads when they come on.
                                          Everyone I know uses ad-blockers online.
                                          I avoid sites that say 'You can't view this site unless you turn off your ad-blocker.'
                                          And some ads are so annoying &/or repetitive that I refuse to use the product on principle.

                                          Thumptastic3T This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Thumptastic3
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                                          #20

                                          @Richard_Littler It works on those who are hooked, addicted to our sick society. It's their heroine.

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