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Technology Connections - You are being misled about renewable energy technology.

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  • negativenullN negativenull

    Amazing video by Technology Connections. It's a long one, but don't miss his 30 minute angry rant at the end.

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    bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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    Oh fuck they broke Alec shit's bad

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    • greenrg@slrpnk.netG greenrg@slrpnk.net

      Ooh nice! Does he have other videos like this or is it all computers and stuff?

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      He does more old tech stuff or explains how appliances work. Not really computers. 10/10 channel but I get that the content isn't super captivating for everyone.

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      • D doomsider@lemmy.world

        Great video. Completely breaks down the argument. You already knew this of you had been paying attention. Oil/gas for electricity generation in any form is DOA. It is insanely more expensive than solar + battery.

        Not to mention destructive to the environment and politically fraught with issues.

        To think if our government went all in it could provide dirt cheap limitless energy that would not cause lung disease or wars is staggering.

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        muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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        But the rich would be only 0.987 as wealthy

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        • ObiniceO Obinice

          Damn, I love his stuff anyway, but this time I'm looking forward to watching it just to see how he incorporates a call for revolution against his government into a video about solar panels, haha

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          Its a very reasonable angry pivot that become even more reasonably angry.

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          • greenrg@slrpnk.netG greenrg@slrpnk.net

            Ooh nice! Does he have other videos like this or is it all computers and stuff?

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            mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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            If you ever wanted to learn about latent heat of transformation, your cup runneth over.

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            • N netux@lemmy.sdf.org

              Lots of great stuff, lots of retro tech and common how it works stuff. His dishwasher video makes it so there is no reason to wash things by hand pretty much ever.

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              mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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              As someone on reddit said, "I could disappear bodies in my dishwasher."

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              • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksM muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works

                But the rich would be only 0.987 as wealthy

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                gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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                they'd probably be more wealthy from their heavy investments in renewable energy, which is more profitable than fossil fuels btw

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                • acargitzT acargitz

                  Common sense.

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                  gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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                  it still needs to be explained carefully though

                  like to a child you still have to explain how to read a clock or how to tie their shoes even though it's common sense. and you have to be patient while explaining it.

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                  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                    they'd probably be more wealthy from their heavy investments in renewable energy, which is more profitable than fossil fuels btw

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                    untorquer@lemmy.world
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                    Wondering now if paradoxically accelerating global warming increases stock ROI in renewables as the perceived value of renewable energy increases with the perceived/predicted level of global warming.

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                      Wondering now if paradoxically accelerating global warming increases stock ROI in renewables as the perceived value of renewable energy increases with the perceived/predicted level of global warming.

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                      worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today
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                      No, they are just after power, not money. They have a darwinist ideology to push.

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                        No, they are just after power, not money. They have a darwinist ideology to push.

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                        untorquer@lemmy.world
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                        It's capitalism, power is wealth by definition. These are compatible concepts.

                        By perceived value i mean speculation.

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                        • U untorquer@lemmy.world

                          Wondering now if paradoxically accelerating global warming increases stock ROI in renewables as the perceived value of renewable energy increases with the perceived/predicted level of global warming.

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                          gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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                          i don't think they're that far-sighted though it's probably a neat side-effect to them

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                          • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                            i don't think they're that far-sighted though it's probably a neat side-effect to them

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                            untorquer@lemmy.world
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                            Mmm... Well i think there are enough of them that think long term to maintain their institutions. The oil industry has been suppressing concerns about climate change and disaster for well over a century now

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                              I think there's something wrong with your math did you mean 630MWh/yr?

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                              humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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                              ty. corrected. original said 630kwh/year

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                              • negativenullN negativenull

                                Amazing video by Technology Connections. It's a long one, but don't miss his 30 minute angry rant at the end.

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                                baggie@lemmy.zip
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                                Sometimes I've been feeling like I'm the weird one for caring about other people and the shit that's been going on. It's really nice to see someone as angry as I am.

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                                • S stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net

                                  God, fuck ethanol. Last I checked it literally took 1.5 gallons of oil/gas to produce 1 gallon of ethanol. It turns more fuel into less fuel and pisses away soil fertility doing it.

                                  I read an article some time ago arguing the purpose of ethanol (and ag subsidies in general) is, consciously or unconsciously, manifest destiny - we have to have a "use" for all the land we stole, we have to do something with it even if that something is a complete waste, because otherwise, people might start asking why we don't give it back. Seems more likely to me all the time.

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                                  humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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                                  It's the power of a voting class. Origins are geopolitics of 70s oil crisis. Then vote buying of rural areas. Most of the legislative giveaways were titled "clean air something". There is a food security argument for grains (livestock is a food battery, and ethanol is surplus monetization)

                                  There is a high oil-related cost portion of corn farming. Close to $300 of the $650/acre is fertilizer ($225), tractor fuel, pesticides. The last 4 years of corn farming losses is also during low NG price. The minimal profit before rent-equivalence can go negative at higher NG price, because ethanol is only blended into gasoline when gasoline is expensive, and then corn only bought for cheap when it is not. The US always has a high oil price policy, and geopolitical insecurity to achieve it. Weapons-oil industry is deep state establishment pushing for war and higher oil prices, and more corn helps, and politicians are rewarded with larger bribery war chests.

                                  Energy insecurity for Americans comes from relying on geopolitical manipulated energy subscription to live/operate. Farmers need export markets, which makes it good for them for US to not be hated by all of their markets. US oligarchy is also invested in high electricity prices/profits for incumbents. Datacenter bubble is ideal oligarchism alliance with tech.

                                  The point of my post is that farming/rural areas can be weaned from the oil oligarchy voting block. Much cleaner air argument. Genuine energy security that comes from 0 reliance on future geopolitics/supply chains. Better corn prices if some corn farmers switch to solar. Lower oil prices if less of it is wasted on farming and cars. Lower electricity prices and abundance to fund whatever skynet priority to better kill us all, but without us going broke first.

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                                  • negativenullN negativenull

                                    Amazing video by Technology Connections. It's a long one, but don't miss his 30 minute angry rant at the end.

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                                    I have watched only a few minutes of this vid so far, as well as the timestamps and I must admit I don't agree with this approach because of something I learned today.

                                    He says around 2 m something like: the strategic US reserve of oil even tho the number of barrels sounds huge, they could sustain the US only a month of our current use. From the context my understanding is that he implies that this is due to casual, everyday-people consumption.

                                    Well, it looks like the Department of Defense is the U.S. government’s largest fossil fuel consumer, accounting for between 77% and 80% of all federal government energy consumption since 2001. So why is this huge percentage missing from this long analysis?

                                    Anyways, if he talks about the US military petroleum consumption, please let me know. Or if I got something wrong with this new info I got about the US military, let me know too.

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                                    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                                      it still needs to be explained carefully though

                                      like to a child you still have to explain how to read a clock or how to tie their shoes even though it's common sense. and you have to be patient while explaining it.

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                                      I didn't write "common sense" to imply it doesn't need to be explained.

                                      I wrote it to mean that once explained, it clearly is impossible to refute because it's common sense.

                                      My comment was not adversarial.

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                                      • negativenullN negativenull

                                        Amazing video by Technology Connections. It's a long one, but don't miss his 30 minute angry rant at the end.

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                                        captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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                                        That rant at the end really sums up my feelings as a Midwestern leftist. Hell the whole thing does honestly. But you treat people right, you make prudent decisions, and you treat labor with dignity and respect.

                                        I also really respect him for accepting when something that had been obvious to him (the value proposition of solar and electrification) turned out to have not been obvious to others so he cut the snark and explained his reasoning. It's an admirable display of character. But also, yeah it had been obvious to me as well.

                                        Probably not my favorite video of his, but definitely rhe one I respect the most

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                                        • U untorquer@lemmy.world

                                          It's capitalism, power is wealth by definition. These are compatible concepts.

                                          By perceived value i mean speculation.

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                                          They use the aesthetics of capitalism to intellectualize and explain why we should not question their supremacy.

                                          In reality, capitalism does not in any way justify monopolization of natural resources, or the large-scale destruction of the environment.

                                          Capitalism is the ideology of thr petit-bourgeoisie, not the actual bourgeoisie. They are just social-darwinists.

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