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There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

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  • HarriettMBH HarriettMB

    @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj But people could have smaller individual solar set-ups on their houses, or other buildings. It doesn’t have to be a big thing run by the state or a business. That would take the load off the grid, and it would also be much more difficult for the likes of the USA to punish the country by stopping fuel deliveries.

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    @HarriettMB @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj yes. Every bit taken off the grid load means the grid can work better/longer for those who can't use solar. The only problem I can see is that with embargoes in place it'd be difficult to provide more hardware than was actually in Cuba already.

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    • HarriettMBH HarriettMB

      @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj But people could have smaller individual solar set-ups on their houses, or other buildings. It doesn’t have to be a big thing run by the state or a business. That would take the load off the grid, and it would also be much more difficult for the likes of the USA to punish the country by stopping fuel deliveries.

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      @HarriettMB @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj@mastodon.social

      My understanding is that it's very difficult for individuals to import anything into Cuba independently of the state.

      I believe that China is sympathetic to Cuba but getting anything onto the island is fraught with problems due to the combination of US embargoes, Cuban debt, and Cuban state inflexibility.

      Cuban people have learnt to be resilient and resourceful - the current nastiness from the US government will test their resolve.

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      • HarriettMBH HarriettMB

        @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj But people could have smaller individual solar set-ups on their houses, or other buildings. It doesn’t have to be a big thing run by the state or a business. That would take the load off the grid, and it would also be much more difficult for the likes of the USA to punish the country by stopping fuel deliveries.

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        @HarriettMB @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj

        Back to China. China is the solar superpower and would provide the infrastructure just like Belt and Road. Not necessarily hegemony - not necessarily economic imperialism. The issue would be the US reaction. Cuban agriculture has already become mostly decarbonised. The problem still remains of over-reliance on a single cash crop when there is an embargo.
        There is already stuff on the net: https://cuba-solidarity.org.uk/

        Sign the petition for the EDM.

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        • GeriG Geri

          There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

          Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

          Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

          No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

          🇨🇺

          https://www.dw.com/en/cuba-oil-fuel-embargo-economy-crisis-united-states-trump-venezuela/a-75849429

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          @Geri tRump's policies are responsible for millions of deaths around the world.

          He should be in the dock at the International Criminal Court.

          USA = world's largest and most persistent rogue state.

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          • Stoneface VimesC Stoneface Vimes

            @HarriettMB @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj yes. Every bit taken off the grid load means the grid can work better/longer for those who can't use solar. The only problem I can see is that with embargoes in place it'd be difficult to provide more hardware than was actually in Cuba already.

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            @capnthommo @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj Seems like panels, even domestic ones, will have to come into Cuba in small pieces/individual cells and literally be assembled in the country. I truly hope this is possible.

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            • GeriG Geri

              @MarkBrigham I am not a green energy specialist, in fact I am no more than an English housewife, but how windy does it get, how sunny, we do know it possess the Toa River and that should have been harnessed in some way, but is this feasible - I cannot say nor can I judge from my Safe European Home

              I just feel sorry for them xx

              Aml G

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              @Geri As I stated, I too am sympathetic to anyone who gets energy abruptly cut off.

              Lot of solar & wind resources in Caribbean. I’m not the only one that thinks Cuba needs solar ASAP. The Cubans are. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/cubans-fight-blackouts-with-solar-us-extends-oil-chokehold-2026-02-20/

              Here’s another look at solar, wind, & their need to upgrade their power grid to reduce dependence on oil:

              https://cuba.miami.edu/environment/exploring-energy-options-for-cuba/index.html

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              • GeriG Geri

                There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

                Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

                Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

                No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

                🇨🇺

                https://www.dw.com/en/cuba-oil-fuel-embargo-economy-crisis-united-states-trump-venezuela/a-75849429

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                @Geri This might give Cuba a great boost towards renewables, which would, in the long run, be much more economical for them. After a shock, it might give their economy a long term boost.

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                • GeriG Geri

                  There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

                  Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

                  Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

                  No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

                  🇨🇺

                  https://www.dw.com/en/cuba-oil-fuel-embargo-economy-crisis-united-states-trump-venezuela/a-75849429

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                  @Geri Solar brings independence

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                  • MarkM Mark

                    @Geri As I stated, I too am sympathetic to anyone who gets energy abruptly cut off.

                    Lot of solar & wind resources in Caribbean. I’m not the only one that thinks Cuba needs solar ASAP. The Cubans are. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/cubans-fight-blackouts-with-solar-us-extends-oil-chokehold-2026-02-20/

                    Here’s another look at solar, wind, & their need to upgrade their power grid to reduce dependence on oil:

                    https://cuba.miami.edu/environment/exploring-energy-options-for-cuba/index.html

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                    #45

                    @Geri They’ve known a long time about risks of foreign oil dependence; they just moved slowly (as have most nations).

                    The downside of being slow is their current predicament. The upside is that renewables (especially solar) & battery storage have been exponentially dropping in price & are the cheaper (& more secure) way forward.

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                    • MarkM Mark

                      @Geri They’ve known a long time about risks of foreign oil dependence; they just moved slowly (as have most nations).

                      The downside of being slow is their current predicament. The upside is that renewables (especially solar) & battery storage have been exponentially dropping in price & are the cheaper (& more secure) way forward.

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                      #46

                      @Geri “The Trump admin says its measures increase pressure for political change in Cuba… press secretary Leavitt said it was in Cuba's ‘best interest to make…dramatic changes very soon.’”
                      https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/cuba-blackouts-trump-us-oil-b2924702.html

                      I say: Great if those ‘dramatic changes’ render obsolete the use of oil as a geopolitical weapon against Cuba.

                      Hopefully the international community accelerates aid to help them transition.

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                      • Stoneface VimesC Stoneface Vimes

                        @HarriettMB @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj yes. Every bit taken off the grid load means the grid can work better/longer for those who can't use solar. The only problem I can see is that with embargoes in place it'd be difficult to provide more hardware than was actually in Cuba already.

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                        Mark
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                        @Geri @freyjfreyj @HarriettMB @capnthommo @Don_kun Yes. As noted elsewhere on this thread, Cubans are scrambling to install solar in response to the petrol shortage USA caused. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/cuba-blackouts-trump-us-oil-b2924702.html

                        Best time to plant a tree was 25 years ago; second best time is now.

                        And costs of solar, wind, battery storage have come down exponentially.

                        Any aid orgs working on this?

                        #solar #renewableEnergy #cuba

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                        • MarkM Mark

                          @Geri @freyjfreyj @HarriettMB @capnthommo @Don_kun Yes. As noted elsewhere on this thread, Cubans are scrambling to install solar in response to the petrol shortage USA caused. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/cuba-blackouts-trump-us-oil-b2924702.html

                          Best time to plant a tree was 25 years ago; second best time is now.

                          And costs of solar, wind, battery storage have come down exponentially.

                          Any aid orgs working on this?

                          #solar #renewableEnergy #cuba

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                          @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj @capnthommo @HarriettMB

                          US State Department has a policy of approval for certain exports to #Cuba, including:

                          “Items necessary for the environmental protection of U.S. and international air quality, waters or coastlines, including items related to renewable energy or energy efficiency.”

                          https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-provision-of-humanitarian-assistance-to-cuba/

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                          • MarkM Mark

                            @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj @capnthommo @HarriettMB

                            US State Department has a policy of approval for certain exports to #Cuba, including:

                            “Items necessary for the environmental protection of U.S. and international air quality, waters or coastlines, including items related to renewable energy or energy efficiency.”

                            https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-provision-of-humanitarian-assistance-to-cuba/

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                            Mark
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                            I think such exports would have to go to citizens directly, not to Cuban government. But that’s for the lawyers & such

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                            • GeriG Geri

                              There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

                              Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

                              Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

                              No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

                              🇨🇺

                              https://www.dw.com/en/cuba-oil-fuel-embargo-economy-crisis-united-states-trump-venezuela/a-75849429

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                              @Geri
                              One of my sisters, a son, and a daughter of my lady, at different times stayed with Cuban families for their vacations. I'm getting messages of concern for those families that were their hosts.

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                              • GeriG Geri

                                @teedubyeah I would suggest. The people who left the island of Cuba left because they did not care to live there or wish to support that country anymore, so, in that respect, there may be a non sequitur in your statement xx

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                                Teedubyeah
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                                @Geri my statement is 100% related. I grew up in South Florida and am very attune to cubans and Cuban culture. The people that left Cuba mostly want a free Cuba, but they fell for the lies of Castro and have failed to recognize that Trump is the same monster. They have failed to learn the lesson, they have failed to educate themselves. An uneducated population is easy to control.

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                                • MarkM Mark

                                  @Geri @Don_kun @freyjfreyj @capnthommo @HarriettMB

                                  US State Department has a policy of approval for certain exports to #Cuba, including:

                                  “Items necessary for the environmental protection of U.S. and international air quality, waters or coastlines, including items related to renewable energy or energy efficiency.”

                                  https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-provision-of-humanitarian-assistance-to-cuba/

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                                  @MarkBrigham @Don_kun @freyjfreyj @capnthommo @HarriettMB it is an ocean from my knowledge. Soz xx

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                                  • GeriG Geri

                                    @Petesmom isn't this just more hegemony?

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                                    @Petesmom @Geri China is stepping up, investing in transmission lines to carry electricity from wind farms AND helping build solar capacity.

                                    Need a lot of new installations, both for non-fossil production and storage. But Trump’s weaponization of oil is accelerating transition. #CleanEnergy #renewables #solar #WindPower #cuba

                                    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/18/us-sanctions-power-cuts-climate-crisis-why-cuba-is-betting-on-renewables

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                                    • MarkM Mark

                                      @Petesmom @Geri China is stepping up, investing in transmission lines to carry electricity from wind farms AND helping build solar capacity.

                                      Need a lot of new installations, both for non-fossil production and storage. But Trump’s weaponization of oil is accelerating transition. #CleanEnergy #renewables #solar #WindPower #cuba

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/18/us-sanctions-power-cuts-climate-crisis-why-cuba-is-betting-on-renewables

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                                      @Petesmom @Geri I’ll avoid the geopolitics entirely, but observe (from my layman’s perspective) that China is well poised to step up & help Cuba transition to renewables. They make 80% of the world’s photovoltaic panels, producing them (cheaply!) faster than they can be deployed.

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                                      • JackPearseJ JackPearse

                                        @Geri Solar brings independence

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                                        @Geri @jackpearse Yes!

                                        Solar + wind + storage + energy efficiency

                                        All these things are cheaper long term, and provide independence from fossil fuels.

                                        The problem is the up-front costs make it difficult to pivot quickly. Easier to stay addicted to fossil fuel even though it costs more long term.

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                                        • GeriG Geri

                                          There are 11 million ppl who live on Cuba.

                                          Currently, Trump has decided they should not receive any oil

                                          Their entire country's economy is being shut down because it can not produce sufficient electricity

                                          No one is talking about this on this on the Internet, but you can if you copy this message xx

                                          🇨🇺

                                          https://www.dw.com/en/cuba-oil-fuel-embargo-economy-crisis-united-states-trump-venezuela/a-75849429

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                                          @Geri

                                          There is an entire dark fleet out there carrying oil. Not a single one of those ships can come to Cuba's aid? Not even at "spot prices"?

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