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  3. Watching a Youtube video rn about moving away from #Discord to something #FOSS (#Matrix 's #Element ) .

Watching a Youtube video rn about moving away from #Discord to something #FOSS (#Matrix 's #Element ) .

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  • Bloo (they/she) πŸ“ πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ πŸ‰Q This user is from outside of this forum
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    Bloo (they/she) πŸ“ πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ πŸ‰
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    Watching a Youtube video rn about moving away from #Discord to something #FOSS (#Matrix 's #Element ) . It's a great video... BUT, it really underlines some big issues with attitudes toward #UX and #UI in #tech circles.

    He said: "you can't customise your profile with kawai pictures and emojis, but who gives a crap about that".

    I get it. Priorities should be on privacy. But the fact is: this stuff IS important to people. Also, why _cant_ we have that? (cont)

    Bloo (they/she) πŸ“ πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ πŸ‰Q Herz++H kitkatK 3 Replies Last reply
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      Watching a Youtube video rn about moving away from #Discord to something #FOSS (#Matrix 's #Element ) . It's a great video... BUT, it really underlines some big issues with attitudes toward #UX and #UI in #tech circles.

      He said: "you can't customise your profile with kawai pictures and emojis, but who gives a crap about that".

      I get it. Priorities should be on privacy. But the fact is: this stuff IS important to people. Also, why _cant_ we have that? (cont)

      Bloo (they/she) πŸ“ πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ πŸ‰Q This user is from outside of this forum
      Bloo (they/she) πŸ“ πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ πŸ‰Q This user is from outside of this forum
      Bloo (they/she) πŸ“ πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ πŸ‰
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      Like, I don't see why #FOSS #UX should be excluded from whimsy and delight. One of the things I'm trying to incorperate into my FOSS projects is exactly that: a delightful user experience that people WANT to keep coming back for.

      Why shouldn't we give people the ability to add cool banners and colors to their profiles? If it incresaes the network effect to a federated, FOSS chat apps advantage, then I think that's worth considering!

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        Like, I don't see why #FOSS #UX should be excluded from whimsy and delight. One of the things I'm trying to incorperate into my FOSS projects is exactly that: a delightful user experience that people WANT to keep coming back for.

        Why shouldn't we give people the ability to add cool banners and colors to their profiles? If it incresaes the network effect to a federated, FOSS chat apps advantage, then I think that's worth considering!

        teresa_athomeT This user is from outside of this forum
        teresa_athomeT This user is from outside of this forum
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        @QueerMatters I’m with you on this. I like quality utilitarian tools, but there’s no reason a chat app, a place where you can hang out with friends and family, should be merely utilitarian. We should be able to create spaces/channels/groups with a custom look. (My book club, anime watch group, gardening friends, etc. should all be able to meet in spaces that reflect ourselves and our focus.)

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          Like, I don't see why #FOSS #UX should be excluded from whimsy and delight. One of the things I'm trying to incorperate into my FOSS projects is exactly that: a delightful user experience that people WANT to keep coming back for.

          Why shouldn't we give people the ability to add cool banners and colors to their profiles? If it incresaes the network effect to a federated, FOSS chat apps advantage, then I think that's worth considering!

          NormN This user is from outside of this forum
          NormN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @QueerMatters

          > Why shouldn't we give people the ability to add cool banners and colors to their profiles?

          I guess it comes down to the fact that proprietary tools need to make money, therefore they cater more to the desires of their audience.

          Whereas #FOSS tools are made with love by (often) a single developer who has their idea of what it should be. And if people don't like it, "fork it".

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            Watching a Youtube video rn about moving away from #Discord to something #FOSS (#Matrix 's #Element ) . It's a great video... BUT, it really underlines some big issues with attitudes toward #UX and #UI in #tech circles.

            He said: "you can't customise your profile with kawai pictures and emojis, but who gives a crap about that".

            I get it. Priorities should be on privacy. But the fact is: this stuff IS important to people. Also, why _cant_ we have that? (cont)

            Herz++H This user is from outside of this forum
            Herz++H This user is from outside of this forum
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            @QueerMatters This is Element sucking specifically. Which is why most furries I've seen who care about this don't recommend it (we care a lot about personal representation and expression).

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            • Bloo (they/she) πŸ“ πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ πŸ‰Q Bloo (they/she) πŸ“ πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ πŸ‰

              Like, I don't see why #FOSS #UX should be excluded from whimsy and delight. One of the things I'm trying to incorperate into my FOSS projects is exactly that: a delightful user experience that people WANT to keep coming back for.

              Why shouldn't we give people the ability to add cool banners and colors to their profiles? If it incresaes the network effect to a federated, FOSS chat apps advantage, then I think that's worth considering!

              Jochen WoltersJ This user is from outside of this forum
              Jochen WoltersJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @QueerMatters This! So many times THIS!

              Way too often, when discussing the #UX of #FOSS software with highly technical proponents of the latter, the attitude tends to be, "The CLI works fine, so what's the problem?”, β€œI don't really care for that feature, so why should others?", etc.

              And of course, that eternal favorite of non-coders: β€œStop complaining. It's open source. Just add it!”

              In contrast, a user-friendly product with a meaningful, powerful feature set simply speaks for itself.

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                Watching a Youtube video rn about moving away from #Discord to something #FOSS (#Matrix 's #Element ) . It's a great video... BUT, it really underlines some big issues with attitudes toward #UX and #UI in #tech circles.

                He said: "you can't customise your profile with kawai pictures and emojis, but who gives a crap about that".

                I get it. Priorities should be on privacy. But the fact is: this stuff IS important to people. Also, why _cant_ we have that? (cont)

                kitkatK This user is from outside of this forum
                kitkatK This user is from outside of this forum
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                @QueerMatters

                > Also, why _cant_ we have that?

                somebody has to pay it somehow and there are barely enough resources to to build a good foundation

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                • Herz++H Herz++

                  @QueerMatters This is Element sucking specifically. Which is why most furries I've seen who care about this don't recommend it (we care a lot about personal representation and expression).

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                  @herzenschein @QueerMatters just saying: in #FluffyChat, you can set an avatar, and "Display Name" - which can include emojis. In #DeltaChat - which I prefer to #Matrix by a country mile - you get the same, plus a "Bio" field. That Bio field could, say, have a link in it, to your fabulous personal furry blog.

                  BTW: #Signal , in comparison, has an "About" field, almost exactly the same as DeltaChat's "Bio" field (where a personal link would also go). So in this respect, DeltaChat is no worse than Signal for the level of personalization.

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                  • NormN Norm

                    @QueerMatters

                    > Why shouldn't we give people the ability to add cool banners and colors to their profiles?

                    I guess it comes down to the fact that proprietary tools need to make money, therefore they cater more to the desires of their audience.

                    Whereas #FOSS tools are made with love by (often) a single developer who has their idea of what it should be. And if people don't like it, "fork it".

                    AmorpheusA This user is from outside of this forum
                    AmorpheusA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @normplum @QueerMatters For some people, FOSS is like art. The consumer does not get to decide what is to be served. The producer offers by choice, not by demand.

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