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  3. it's legit amazing how long the Fairphone 6 (or any phone) lasts on a battery if you strip out google support entirely.

it's legit amazing how long the Fairphone 6 (or any phone) lasts on a battery if you strip out google support entirely.

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  • AnthropyA This user is from outside of this forum
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    it's legit amazing how long the Fairphone 6 (or any phone) lasts on a battery if you strip out google support entirely. It happily lasts almost a week.

    Note that I'm still using this phone for Matrix, Mastodon, my (nextcloud-synced) calendar, Telegram, KDE Connect, Signal, Nextcloud (+ Deck), taking all my photos, interacting with my Flipper Zero, etc etc. It's definitely not just idling. It just doesn't constantly keep GPS up to date and upload my location etc 馃檪

    #fairphone #fairphone6

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    • AnthropyA Anthropy

      it's legit amazing how long the Fairphone 6 (or any phone) lasts on a battery if you strip out google support entirely. It happily lasts almost a week.

      Note that I'm still using this phone for Matrix, Mastodon, my (nextcloud-synced) calendar, Telegram, KDE Connect, Signal, Nextcloud (+ Deck), taking all my photos, interacting with my Flipper Zero, etc etc. It's definitely not just idling. It just doesn't constantly keep GPS up to date and upload my location etc 馃檪

      #fairphone #fairphone6

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      @anthropy Holy crap, the Google stuff really eats up that much?

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        @anthropy Holy crap, the Google stuff really eats up that much?

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        @anthropy Also, how are you liking the FP6?

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        • Bunch of dergsB Bunch of dergs

          @anthropy Holy crap, the Google stuff really eats up that much?

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          @bunch_of_dergs yea, though note that the play framework does a lot of things; keeps position up to date (heavy), keeps data alive and polls (lol) for push messaging (heavy), scans for wifi networks, searches for app updates, associates wifi networks with gps locations and uploads these (heavy), and a lot more, which also leads to conveniences (no waiting for a position when Maps opens, always instant notification of messages), but I can live with getting a message 2-5 mins later and GPS startup

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            @anthropy Also, how are you liking the FP6?

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            @bunch_of_dergs it's.. well to be quite honest I would've preferred not having to rely on /e/-os for official support and OTA updates, I'm still waiting for an official lineage build (there are unofficial ones), and I also kinda hoped to see better support for things like PostmarketOS etc. I dislike that part

            But the hardware is great; solid, fast, good battery, and of course modular, which means you can swap the battery, and swap the bat cover for a card holder, repair it etc, which is amazing

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            • AnthropyA Anthropy

              it's legit amazing how long the Fairphone 6 (or any phone) lasts on a battery if you strip out google support entirely. It happily lasts almost a week.

              Note that I'm still using this phone for Matrix, Mastodon, my (nextcloud-synced) calendar, Telegram, KDE Connect, Signal, Nextcloud (+ Deck), taking all my photos, interacting with my Flipper Zero, etc etc. It's definitely not just idling. It just doesn't constantly keep GPS up to date and upload my location etc 馃檪

              #fairphone #fairphone6

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              @anthropy Pretty neat isn't it? I got mine just last weekend

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              • AnthropyA Anthropy

                @bunch_of_dergs it's.. well to be quite honest I would've preferred not having to rely on /e/-os for official support and OTA updates, I'm still waiting for an official lineage build (there are unofficial ones), and I also kinda hoped to see better support for things like PostmarketOS etc. I dislike that part

                But the hardware is great; solid, fast, good battery, and of course modular, which means you can swap the battery, and swap the bat cover for a card holder, repair it etc, which is amazing

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                @anthropy So you like the hardware.. That's usually the big'ol sticking point with older FairPhones. Huh. I might actually get one - my current iPhone is really on its last legs at the moment.

                /e/-os comes with it standard?

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                  @anthropy So you like the hardware.. That's usually the big'ol sticking point with older FairPhones. Huh. I might actually get one - my current iPhone is really on its last legs at the moment.

                  /e/-os comes with it standard?

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                  @bunch_of_dergs by default it comes with a normal android rom. the e-OS rom is optional, you can buy it preinstalled (costs extra) or you can flash it yourself (very easy to do but unlocks your bootloader temporarily which some things may dislike).

                  I personally have the following addons for the FP6:
                  - card holder battery cover replacement
                  - privacy screen protector (can't view it at an angle)
                  - TPU case, making it even more rugged
                  - installed e-os myself and customized it by ripping out gApps.

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                  • AnthropyA Anthropy

                    @bunch_of_dergs by default it comes with a normal android rom. the e-OS rom is optional, you can buy it preinstalled (costs extra) or you can flash it yourself (very easy to do but unlocks your bootloader temporarily which some things may dislike).

                    I personally have the following addons for the FP6:
                    - card holder battery cover replacement
                    - privacy screen protector (can't view it at an angle)
                    - TPU case, making it even more rugged
                    - installed e-os myself and customized it by ripping out gApps.

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                    @anthropy "some things" possibly including banking apps?

                    Huh, that's fascinating, that if you get it pre-installed the special snowflake apps get less fussy about it. Does the manufacturer have some kinda signing key to do that that consumers don't?

                    ...

                    ...also I can totally 3D-print stuff for this thing can't I.

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                    • Bunch of dergsB Bunch of dergs

                      @anthropy "some things" possibly including banking apps?

                      Huh, that's fascinating, that if you get it pre-installed the special snowflake apps get less fussy about it. Does the manufacturer have some kinda signing key to do that that consumers don't?

                      ...

                      ...also I can totally 3D-print stuff for this thing can't I.

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                      @bunch_of_dergs well I think flashing e-os properly re-locks the bootloader and all that, but I haven't verified myself if some apps get upset because of the secure boot chain being temporarily lost, I can imagine some banking apps wouldn't like it. But I don't run those anyway because they also don't like it when you rip out google play services and the like lol, I use my work phone for that instead.

                      And yea I mean, it's not open hardware but many ppl have made things: https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/Transparent_Fairphone_6_Lego_Back_Mod_148a7af8.html

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                      • AnthropyA Anthropy

                        it's legit amazing how long the Fairphone 6 (or any phone) lasts on a battery if you strip out google support entirely. It happily lasts almost a week.

                        Note that I'm still using this phone for Matrix, Mastodon, my (nextcloud-synced) calendar, Telegram, KDE Connect, Signal, Nextcloud (+ Deck), taking all my photos, interacting with my Flipper Zero, etc etc. It's definitely not just idling. It just doesn't constantly keep GPS up to date and upload my location etc 馃檪

                        #fairphone #fairphone6

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                        @anthropy What kind of SOT do you get, though?

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                          @bunch_of_dergs well I think flashing e-os properly re-locks the bootloader and all that, but I haven't verified myself if some apps get upset because of the secure boot chain being temporarily lost, I can imagine some banking apps wouldn't like it. But I don't run those anyway because they also don't like it when you rip out google play services and the like lol, I use my work phone for that instead.

                          And yea I mean, it's not open hardware but many ppl have made things: https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/Transparent_Fairphone_6_Lego_Back_Mod_148a7af8.html

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                          @anthropy Yeah I kinda need the financial stuff... Gosh, why is our tech landscape such a disaster that you have to get all cozy with Google just to do banking in ways entirely unrelated to that company.

                          I guess I'll just swallow it for now and accept that FairPhone is still a relatively good compromise - but if a bank came along that did accept people actually having some control over their devices, I should maybe switch.

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                            @anthropy What kind of SOT do you get, though?

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                            @hexaitos you mean voltage? Currently I'm at 14% (still haven't charged since taking that screenshot) and the voltage is about 3.7v. I'll probably connect it to the charger soon, though, I usually keep it between ~15 and ~85%

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                              @anthropy Yeah I kinda need the financial stuff... Gosh, why is our tech landscape such a disaster that you have to get all cozy with Google just to do banking in ways entirely unrelated to that company.

                              I guess I'll just swallow it for now and accept that FairPhone is still a relatively good compromise - but if a bank came along that did accept people actually having some control over their devices, I should maybe switch.

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                              @bunch_of_dergs IIRC the EU is trying to get banks to loosen up on this but I'd have to search for it to find the details (and I'm trying to work from home right now so I shouldn't get too distracted hah)

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                                @bunch_of_dergs IIRC the EU is trying to get banks to loosen up on this but I'd have to search for it to find the details (and I'm trying to work from home right now so I shouldn't get too distracted hah)

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                                @anthropy Right, that does sound like a DMA and interoperability thing.

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                                • AnthropyA Anthropy

                                  @hexaitos you mean voltage? Currently I'm at 14% (still haven't charged since taking that screenshot) and the voltage is about 3.7v. I'll probably connect it to the charger soon, though, I usually keep it between ~15 and ~85%

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                                  @anthropy Ah sorry, I was wondering what kind of screen on time you were getting! As in, how much of that time the screen was on, essentially.

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                                    @anthropy Ah sorry, I was wondering what kind of screen on time you were getting! As in, how much of that time the screen was on, essentially.

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                                    @hexaitos honestly unsure, the current value was skewed because I had briefly (like 10 seconds) connected it to a charger the other day, but it said about 10 hours in this run. I'll try see what it ends up being for the next charge cycle.

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                                      @hexaitos honestly unsure, the current value was skewed because I had briefly (like 10 seconds) connected it to a charger the other day, but it said about 10 hours in this run. I'll try see what it ends up being for the next charge cycle.

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                                      @hexaitos again about 10 hours it seems, I'm at 20% now and didn't charge it to 100% to save the battery, but 10-14 hours if using the full capacity is not unreasonable an assumption

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                                        @hexaitos again about 10 hours it seems, I'm at 20% now and didn't charge it to 100% to save the battery, but 10-14 hours if using the full capacity is not unreasonable an assumption

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                                        @anthropy That is pretty impressive then!!

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                                          it's legit amazing how long the Fairphone 6 (or any phone) lasts on a battery if you strip out google support entirely. It happily lasts almost a week.

                                          Note that I'm still using this phone for Matrix, Mastodon, my (nextcloud-synced) calendar, Telegram, KDE Connect, Signal, Nextcloud (+ Deck), taking all my photos, interacting with my Flipper Zero, etc etc. It's definitely not just idling. It just doesn't constantly keep GPS up to date and upload my location etc 馃檪

                                          #fairphone #fairphone6

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                                          still giddy about the 6 day battery life even with intensive usage (made lots of photos, used it as torch, shitposting on fedi, telegram/matrix/signal/etc)

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