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  3. I saw LLMs compared to a drug in this toot, but in conversation with Himself today we concluded it's like a cursed amulet.

I saw LLMs compared to a drug in this toot, but in conversation with Himself today we concluded it's like a cursed amulet.

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  • luna system :moon_badge:L luna system :moon_badge:

    @jjcelery@mastodon.ie the problem is, MI isn't like a drug. it's actually very much like a prosthetic. that's why so many of us are "infected". we're making concessions (using corporate MI services) but the results are too valuable to care about that right now. #ai #llm #ollama #self-hosted #cc0 #public-domain #machine-learning #meshtastic #ipfs #machine-intelligence #consciousness-research

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    @luna @jjcelery it's like a prosthetic you don't need, built on theft and abuse, that destroys your ability to think critically

    It's a prosthetic in the same way Elon Musk's brain chip is

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    • luna system :moon_badge:L luna system :moon_badge:

      @ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu @jjcelery@mastodon.ie mechachrist help us, we decided a couple years ago to start the path towards becoming a therapist and so of COURSE our soft, bleeding heart ass is staring crisisposts on reddit in the face, going "holy fuck there is no system for this"

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      @luna @ainmosni @jjcelery I implore you to stop either using AI or trying to become a therapist, cause if you do both you're going to cause incredible amounts of harm 😬

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      • David GerardD David Gerard

        @jjcelery best is when you do try the chatbot, it sucks, so the chatbot addict tells you you're trying it wrong

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        @davidgerard @jjcelery
        β€œI tried this amulet thing and idk I just am not sold on it”
        β€œOh see the best way to use the amulet isn’t as a necklace, but instead wear it as a belt buckle. You gotta mangle the belt a little and maybe use some glue to do it, but as long as you’re careful the amulet won’t fall off and everyone will be able to see you wearing it.”

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        • JJ CeleryJ JJ Celery

          @luna and further still to drive the distinction: I speak of generative AI and large language models.

          Machine Learning is a superset of these terms, and it's extremely useful.

          To go back to my metaphor, there's good magic objects, and cursed magic objects. If your lore skill is not high enough to know which one is which, you'll wind up using a cursed object and think it's good for you.

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          @jjcelery @luna Even "machine *learning*" though is such a propaganda term for what is mechanically nothing but particular techniques for efficiently building and storing a statistical model of some data. It was chosen as a marketing term targeting obtaining funding (academic & venture).

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          • πŸŽ‡ David Zaslavsky πŸŽ‡D πŸŽ‡ David Zaslavsky πŸŽ‡

            @ainmosni @jjcelery lol, well I wasn't thinking of an LLM specifically, I had in mind a magic object that seems to offer a benefit but secretly drains the PC's stats over time, or something effectively similar to that (unclear how it could be implemented without the player knowing but they can be creative)

            Either way would be really funny though

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            @diazona @ainmosni I would do it with the object "attuning" - let the player know their PC's stats are getting drained, but offer a stronger benefit from the amulet. Eg: drains -1 WIS and -1 INT but its fine, it gives you +3 INT it's an obvious net benefit! Repeat with obvious benefit every time it drains more stats. Then "amulet loses attunement" - you lose all benefits but retain the damage to your stats, but that's ok, keep wearing it, it will attune again.

            Watch bad decisions roll in 🍿

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