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If you're on LinkedIn and are thinking about verifying your account with them, maybe read this first.

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  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

    The CEO of Persona responded to this post, saying they wanted to clarify about the identity verification process. They said:

    "The only subprocessors (8) used are: AWS, Confluent, DBT, ElasticSearch, GCP, MongoDB, Sigma Computing, and Snowflake

    All biometric personal data is deleted immediately after processing.

    All other personal data processed is automatically deleted within 30 days. Data is retained during this period to help users troubleshoot.

    No personal data processed is used for AI/model training. Data is explicitly used to confirm your identity.

    The subprocessors used do NOT include Anthropic, Groqcloud, or OpenAI. The referenced subprocessor list is the superset of subprocessors used across all customers which is unfortunately misleading - we are updating our documentation to make this clearer going forward (thank you for helping us realize this). Our customers select which products are used which determines which subprocessors are used."

    EdE This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
    #105

    @briankrebs As @aral pointed out, for goons like this "deleting data" often amounts to a "SET deleted = 'true' WHERE uid = 'customer23'" or something similar.

    I trust the CEO of Persona about as far as I can throw Peter Thiel's bank account.

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    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

      If you're on LinkedIn and are thinking about verifying your account with them, maybe read this first. It walks through LinkedIn's privacy disclosure to identify 17 companies that may receive and process the data you submit, including name, passport photo, selfie, facial geometry, NFC data chip, national ID #, DoB, email, phone number, address, IP address, device type, MAC address, language, geolocation etc. Unsurprisingly, it seems the biggest recipients are US-based AI companies.

      https://thelocalstack.eu/posts/linkedin-identity-verification-privacy/

      Nils Goroll ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ:varnishcache:S This user is from outside of this forum
      Nils Goroll ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ:varnishcache:S This user is from outside of this forum
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      #106

      @briankrebs original post: https://mastodon.social/@thelocalstack/116099561686307777

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      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

        If you're on LinkedIn and are thinking about verifying your account with them, maybe read this first. It walks through LinkedIn's privacy disclosure to identify 17 companies that may receive and process the data you submit, including name, passport photo, selfie, facial geometry, NFC data chip, national ID #, DoB, email, phone number, address, IP address, device type, MAC address, language, geolocation etc. Unsurprisingly, it seems the biggest recipients are US-based AI companies.

        https://thelocalstack.eu/posts/linkedin-identity-verification-privacy/

        adougA This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #107

        @briankrebs I wish @thelocalstack had opened up with the clarification that they are in the .EU. I think it's totally valid to center their .EU experience in their blog. But since there is a global audience, it's worth pointing out that in the US, Personna is not used, CLEAR is used. I doubt CLEAR is any better and probably worse. But, I would have liked to see it added to avoide confusion from folks.

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        • adougA adoug

          @briankrebs I wish @thelocalstack had opened up with the clarification that they are in the .EU. I think it's totally valid to center their .EU experience in their blog. But since there is a global audience, it's worth pointing out that in the US, Personna is not used, CLEAR is used. I doubt CLEAR is any better and probably worse. But, I would have liked to see it added to avoide confusion from folks.

          thelocalstackT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #108

          @adoug @briankrebs
          Fair point on the EU context, though the .eu domain does signal it.
          On CLEAR: youโ€™re right, and itโ€™s worth a dedicated look. My post was never meant to make accusations, I was documenting exactly what the privacy disclosure says. The goal was clarity, not condemnation.
          The terms are theirs, not mine.

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          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

            @celeste Unless I'm missing something, the post I linked to and cited from was published 4 days before yours. It's not about the reported frontend exposure.

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            celeste ๐Ÿ’ซ
            wrote last edited by
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            @briankrebs@infosec.exchange mustve misread the timestamp; mb

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            • celeste ๐Ÿ’ซC celeste ๐Ÿ’ซ

              @briankrebs@infosec.exchange mustve misread the timestamp; mb

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              @briankrebs@infosec.exchange ah it was actually the same day as my writeup, what a coincidence

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              • Human after allH Human after all

                @kkarhan @briankrebs I am in a dispute with an Irish government department re this exact issue. I am saying that they cannot send personal data to the US and they are being deliberately dumb

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                @humanhorseshoes @briankrebs nodds in agreement

                I just think that the Irish DPA is deliberatly playing stupidโ€ฆ

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                • Kevin Karhan :verified:K Kevin Karhan :verified:

                  @humanhorseshoes @briankrebs nodds in agreement

                  I just think that the Irish DPA is deliberatly playing stupidโ€ฆ

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                  #112

                  @kkarhan @briankrebs I am a repeat customer, they don't like me. If they respond at all.

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                  • Human after allH Human after all

                    @kkarhan @briankrebs I am a repeat customer, they don't like me. If they respond at all.

                    Kevin Karhan :verified:K This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @humanhorseshoes @briankrebs just like I annoy my #ISP due to their procrastination and bad service into constantly reimbursing my bill and giving me free mobile data.

                    • Cuz being an annoying business customer is something that I become when I don't get what I paid for...
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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      The CEO of Persona responded to this post, saying they wanted to clarify about the identity verification process. They said:

                      "The only subprocessors (8) used are: AWS, Confluent, DBT, ElasticSearch, GCP, MongoDB, Sigma Computing, and Snowflake

                      All biometric personal data is deleted immediately after processing.

                      All other personal data processed is automatically deleted within 30 days. Data is retained during this period to help users troubleshoot.

                      No personal data processed is used for AI/model training. Data is explicitly used to confirm your identity.

                      The subprocessors used do NOT include Anthropic, Groqcloud, or OpenAI. The referenced subprocessor list is the superset of subprocessors used across all customers which is unfortunately misleading - we are updating our documentation to make this clearer going forward (thank you for helping us realize this). Our customers select which products are used which determines which subprocessors are used."

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                      Bernard Quatermass
                      wrote last edited by
                      #114

                      @briankrebs and I am Marie of Romania

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                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                        If you're on LinkedIn and are thinking about verifying your account with them, maybe read this first. It walks through LinkedIn's privacy disclosure to identify 17 companies that may receive and process the data you submit, including name, passport photo, selfie, facial geometry, NFC data chip, national ID #, DoB, email, phone number, address, IP address, device type, MAC address, language, geolocation etc. Unsurprisingly, it seems the biggest recipients are US-based AI companies.

                        https://thelocalstack.eu/posts/linkedin-identity-verification-privacy/

                        Ralph MรถcklinghoffR This user is from outside of this forum
                        Ralph MรถcklinghoffR This user is from outside of this forum
                        Ralph Mรถcklinghoff
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                        #115

                        @briankrebs

                        I did everything right. I left LinkedIn two days ago.

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