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  3. And Ro is in on the Toruette's denialism.

And Ro is in on the Toruette's denialism.

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  • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F This user is from outside of this forum
    The Fedilore Otter 🦦F This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    And Ro is in on the Toruette's denialism.

    Or something.

    The Fedilore Otter 🦦F Rachel (Toxic Femininity Arc)Y Mended Pearl | Virtual DollM Steffie πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ :triple-moon-transfem: S 4 Replies Last reply
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    • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

      And Ro is in on the Toruette's denialism.

      Or something.

      The Fedilore Otter 🦦F This user is from outside of this forum
      The Fedilore Otter 🦦F This user is from outside of this forum
      The Fedilore Otter 🦦
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      #2

      This is not a complicated issue, and Ro is a smart person.

      You apologize for a car accident or for accidentally bumping somebody, because those things are accidents. They are actions that are in some way negligent, while also being unintentional.

      Tics are not voluntary. Tics are not negligent. Tics are a 100% involuntary aspect of a certain type of neurology.

      It is not okay to demand that a disabled person apologize for their neurotype.

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      • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

        This is not a complicated issue, and Ro is a smart person.

        You apologize for a car accident or for accidentally bumping somebody, because those things are accidents. They are actions that are in some way negligent, while also being unintentional.

        Tics are not voluntary. Tics are not negligent. Tics are a 100% involuntary aspect of a certain type of neurology.

        It is not okay to demand that a disabled person apologize for their neurotype.

        The Fedilore Otter 🦦F This user is from outside of this forum
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        Ro is demanding that a disabled person apologize for able-bodied people's fear of disabled people's bodies.

        In this case, that fear is absolutely sympathetic. It is genuinely true that harm was caused.

        But that doesn't mean that these demands for apologies and Tourette's denialism are not obvious and intentional bigotry.

        You apologize for things you had agency over.

        You do not apologise for who you are.

        You do not apologize because somebody is afraid of your body.

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        • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

          Ro is demanding that a disabled person apologize for able-bodied people's fear of disabled people's bodies.

          In this case, that fear is absolutely sympathetic. It is genuinely true that harm was caused.

          But that doesn't mean that these demands for apologies and Tourette's denialism are not obvious and intentional bigotry.

          You apologize for things you had agency over.

          You do not apologise for who you are.

          You do not apologize because somebody is afraid of your body.

          The Fedilore Otter 🦦F This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          This is what Ro does.

          I'm sure there are thousands of white men who say that slur, every day.

          People with more social power, who say the slur on purpose.

          Ro doesn't go after any of them.

          Ro goes after the disabled guy, based on some quirk of his neurology.

          Ro joins in on the massive hate campaign, spreading misinformation and abuse against disabled people.

          Because Ro is a fucking coward.

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          • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

            Ro is demanding that a disabled person apologize for able-bodied people's fear of disabled people's bodies.

            In this case, that fear is absolutely sympathetic. It is genuinely true that harm was caused.

            But that doesn't mean that these demands for apologies and Tourette's denialism are not obvious and intentional bigotry.

            You apologize for things you had agency over.

            You do not apologise for who you are.

            You do not apologize because somebody is afraid of your body.

            Inga stands with πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈI This user is from outside of this forum
            Inga stands with πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈI This user is from outside of this forum
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            @fedilore it is especially wild to see these posts after Ro's actions (the "bug") caused more tangible harm, and I don't remember Ro apologizing for that accident (he had agency over), only (mostly Ro's supporters, but IIRC Ro directly as well to some extent) dragging those who complained about the harm through dirt.

            I would understand seeing this from someone else; but from Ro it's such a double standard.

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            • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

              This is what Ro does.

              I'm sure there are thousands of white men who say that slur, every day.

              People with more social power, who say the slur on purpose.

              Ro doesn't go after any of them.

              Ro goes after the disabled guy, based on some quirk of his neurology.

              Ro joins in on the massive hate campaign, spreading misinformation and abuse against disabled people.

              Because Ro is a fucking coward.

              The Fedilore Otter 🦦F This user is from outside of this forum
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              The Fedilore Otter 🦦
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              #6

              Ro started by attacking Indigenous people and Latine people and Muslims.

              Ro pivoted to attacking transfeminine people.

              Now Ro is attacking disabled people.

              Ro is a bigot and a coward.

              This abuse is strategic. It's only ever directed towards extremely vulnerable groups that Ro knows they can get away with hurting.

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              • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

                This is what Ro does.

                I'm sure there are thousands of white men who say that slur, every day.

                People with more social power, who say the slur on purpose.

                Ro doesn't go after any of them.

                Ro goes after the disabled guy, based on some quirk of his neurology.

                Ro joins in on the massive hate campaign, spreading misinformation and abuse against disabled people.

                Because Ro is a fucking coward.

                a fresh pup of coffee :bowie:D This user is from outside of this forum
                a fresh pup of coffee :bowie:D This user is from outside of this forum
                a fresh pup of coffee :bowie:
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                @fedilore or just presumes that folks who disagree with them are quietly using the slur about them. Like when they suggests that detractors should "just call him that and get it over with".

                There are real problems in the world. And then there are people (like this person) who feel the need to center everything around themselves

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                • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

                  And Ro is in on the Toruette's denialism.

                  Or something.

                  Rachel (Toxic Femininity Arc)Y This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @fedilore this is such a bizarre argument for Ro to make. if you know anything about tourette's, you know that tics aren't at all like a preventable car accident. they're more like a chronic cough or sneeze - something that the person with tourette's can sometimes, temporarily, unreliably, prevent, and then only with practice.

                  but hey, if it's anything that disabled people need, it's more ableds insisting that we're Not Trying Hard Enough

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                  • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

                    And Ro is in on the Toruette's denialism.

                    Or something.

                    Mended Pearl | Virtual DollM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @fedilore also from a few articles I saw, he did apologize. He reached out to the Sinners team to apologize so like Ro is just EXTRA wrong

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                    • Mended Pearl | Virtual DollM Mended Pearl | Virtual Doll

                      @fedilore also from a few articles I saw, he did apologize. He reached out to the Sinners team to apologize so like Ro is just EXTRA wrong

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                      @mendedpearl I don't think that really matters. He did an appropriate public apology, and the people attacking him wouldn't know if he had done a private apology as well.

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                      • The Fedilore Otter 🦦F The Fedilore Otter 🦦

                        And Ro is in on the Toruette's denialism.

                        Or something.

                        Steffie πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ :triple-moon-transfem: S This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Steffie πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ :triple-moon-transfem:
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                        @fedilore@mastodon.social I saw that this cursed discourse has migrated from Bsky to the fedi... I have no comment other than to note that disable people and queer fem people are regularly required to apologize for our existence.

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