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  3. Just a thought: How about we nix Presidents’ Day and make Election Day a national holiday instead?

Just a thought: How about we nix Presidents’ Day and make Election Day a national holiday instead?

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  • Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩B Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

    @nuintari @Strandjunker

    i used to disagree

    that if you make voting mandatory, people will draw dicks on their ballot or do joke votes

    and you do see that in places where voting is mandatory

    but i've changed my view

    you can't force people to care, yes

    but enough say they "care" but then won't do fucking shit to prove it in an extremely effective way: by voting

    so now i think getting enough of those lazy entitled assholes off their asses and voting outweighs the sabotage/ vandalism effect

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    @benroyce @nuintari @Strandjunker Mandatory voting is less to get people who won't vote to do so, but more to get those who would suppress the vote to fuck off forever.

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    • Peter BrownP Peter Brown

      @benroyce @nuintari @Strandjunker I am astonished how difficult the US makes it for people to vote. Having to travel long distances and then having to queue for long periods to vote.
      And running it on a working day when many people simply can’t get the time off to vote

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      @peterbrown @benroyce @nuintari In recent years Michigan has gone all-in on making it *easier* to vote. E.g. at every interaction w/ the state, you'll be asked if you want to register to vote. (Also no-reason absentee ballots, etc.) Trump's DOJ launched a bogus investigation on grounds there were "too many" registered voters. No, this is what it looks like when the gov't *wants* people to vote! But Republicans hate that.

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        @twobiscuits @benroyce @peterbrown @nuintari @Strandjunker That's pretty much how it works in Canada here - you get mail at your home address that says you are registered and you bring that and an ID and vote. It's not that hard.

        Anything else is open to abuse and voter suppression, which I suspect has more impact than voter fraud ...

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        • The Psychotic Network FerretN The Psychotic Network Ferret

          @benroyce @Strandjunker I think voting needs to be a two day affair, with a mandated time off for everyone.

          So places like hospitals can schedule.

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          @nuintari @benroyce @Strandjunker yes, but when people vote, right-wing policies always lose.

          by the numbers.

          the more people vote, the left-wing-ier the outcome is.

          So guess who'll never, ever, allow that to come to pass.

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            @twobiscuits @benroyce @rhempel @peterbrown @nuintari @Strandjunker If you did not have people register to vote, how would you prevent people from just touring the city and voting at each polling station? Whichever party cheats best wins in that case.

            I suppose we could use the purple finger method. In Iraq, where most of the vital records were destroyed, you had to dunk your finger in purple ink that takes a couple days to wear off.

            Yes you should have to show ID at a polling station.

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              @twobiscuits @benroyce @rhempel @peterbrown @nuintari @Strandjunker If you did not have people register to vote, how would you prevent people from just touring the city and voting at each polling station? Whichever party cheats best wins in that case.

              I suppose we could use the purple finger method. In Iraq, where most of the vital records were destroyed, you had to dunk your finger in purple ink that takes a couple days to wear off.

              Yes you should have to show ID at a polling station.

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              @mike805 @twobiscuits @benroyce @peterbrown @nuintari @Strandjunker You have to register, of course, but it should be automatic when you move to a new location.

              I think the difference is whether you have to explicitly register to vote, or if the government recognizes your new location either by a change of address on the driver's license , or your tax forms, etc.

              It should be easy to get added to a voting roll.

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