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  3. Saying that you do not want GenAI in the #books you read, the things you watch or the games you play is an understandable and NORMAL position.

Saying that you do not want GenAI in the #books you read, the things you watch or the games you play is an understandable and NORMAL position.

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  • Bernie the WordsmithB This user is from outside of this forum
    Bernie the WordsmithB This user is from outside of this forum
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    Saying that you do not want GenAI in the #books you read, the things you watch or the games you play is an understandable and NORMAL position. Maybe they have ethical concerns, maybe they love their artist homies. Maybe they don't like the bland garbage that AI generates. Stop framing this like an horde of neoluddites is starting the Butlerian Jihad (would be fun doh) just because they do not want to follow a romance autor who has a computer shitting novels instead of writing them herself.

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    • Bernie the WordsmithB Bernie the Wordsmith

      Saying that you do not want GenAI in the #books you read, the things you watch or the games you play is an understandable and NORMAL position. Maybe they have ethical concerns, maybe they love their artist homies. Maybe they don't like the bland garbage that AI generates. Stop framing this like an horde of neoluddites is starting the Butlerian Jihad (would be fun doh) just because they do not want to follow a romance autor who has a computer shitting novels instead of writing them herself.

      Bernie the WordsmithB This user is from outside of this forum
      Bernie the WordsmithB This user is from outside of this forum
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      Look, we do not have a lot of ways to avoid that shit in the workplace lately. But people like to select their own fun.

      Books about AI are fun.

      Books made by AI are not.

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      • Bernie the WordsmithB Bernie the Wordsmith

        Look, we do not have a lot of ways to avoid that shit in the workplace lately. But people like to select their own fun.

        Books about AI are fun.

        Books made by AI are not.

        Bernie the WordsmithB This user is from outside of this forum
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        And please spare me with the "both sides" argument. Because one of them is trying to force feed things to the other. And one of them has all the money and resources and the other has not. This is not people taking sides. This is people trying for the boot to stop pressing against their face.

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        • Bernie the WordsmithB Bernie the Wordsmith

          And please spare me with the "both sides" argument. Because one of them is trying to force feed things to the other. And one of them has all the money and resources and the other has not. This is not people taking sides. This is people trying for the boot to stop pressing against their face.

          Bernie the WordsmithB This user is from outside of this forum
          Bernie the WordsmithB This user is from outside of this forum
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          You keep mentioning fear of the machines.

          Not about that.

          You keep mentioning grammar checking and transcription functionality.

          Not about that.

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          • Bernie the WordsmithB Bernie the Wordsmith

            You keep mentioning fear of the machines.

            Not about that.

            You keep mentioning grammar checking and transcription functionality.

            Not about that.

            Bernie the WordsmithB This user is from outside of this forum
            Bernie the WordsmithB This user is from outside of this forum
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            Look, we get it. AI sounds hot. We read the same science fiction books and it is nice to think that maybe one day LLM technology can be leveraged against oppression. News about fake open models are fun in a sense because every time one of those pops up, some idiot is going to lose millions yadda yadda. But you are missing a very important point here: a permission structure is being built around us, and stopping it is absolutely crucial

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            • Bernie the WordsmithB Bernie the Wordsmith

              Look, we get it. AI sounds hot. We read the same science fiction books and it is nice to think that maybe one day LLM technology can be leveraged against oppression. News about fake open models are fun in a sense because every time one of those pops up, some idiot is going to lose millions yadda yadda. But you are missing a very important point here: a permission structure is being built around us, and stopping it is absolutely crucial

              Bernie the WordsmithB This user is from outside of this forum
              Bernie the WordsmithB This user is from outside of this forum
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              Every time you do a "both sides" stuff between "AI hypers and deniers" you are basically telling me that the person worried about the destruction of their life, their job and the environment has the level of delusion of a person like Peter Thiel, an eldritch horror in a vessel made of flesh that thinks humanity, umm, should not exist.

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              • Bernie the WordsmithB Bernie the Wordsmith

                Every time you do a "both sides" stuff between "AI hypers and deniers" you are basically telling me that the person worried about the destruction of their life, their job and the environment has the level of delusion of a person like Peter Thiel, an eldritch horror in a vessel made of flesh that thinks humanity, umm, should not exist.

                Bernie the WordsmithB This user is from outside of this forum
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                This is Mastodon. There is people here that can install GotoSocial in a smart oven toaster and then proceed to launch it in low orbit just for fun. Please stop making allusions to technophobia. It's irritating and disrespectful

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                • Bernie the WordsmithB Bernie the Wordsmith

                  This is Mastodon. There is people here that can install GotoSocial in a smart oven toaster and then proceed to launch it in low orbit just for fun. Please stop making allusions to technophobia. It's irritating and disrespectful

                  Madeleine MorrisR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @berniethewordsmith Thank you for this outstanding thread. You've said everything I have wanted to say, but much more eloquently.

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                  • Bernie the WordsmithB Bernie the Wordsmith

                    Every time you do a "both sides" stuff between "AI hypers and deniers" you are basically telling me that the person worried about the destruction of their life, their job and the environment has the level of delusion of a person like Peter Thiel, an eldritch horror in a vessel made of flesh that thinks humanity, umm, should not exist.

                    Ada :v_trans: :v_pan:​I This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @berniethewordsmith might be good to include that you're talking about (american, big-tech) LLMs

                    We've used various forms of ML&AI for decades, everything from video-games to produce logistics and vaccine research. It's a group of technologies not singular thing (LLMs is not the whole group!)

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