***This is NsCDE which is a FVWM hack, not the original CDE, which I can't really speak on

CC: @Forestofenchantment@furville.drinkanddrive.africa

Very usable, but you have to get over the hurdle of figuring out good FVWM keybinds first. I'd recommend wmaker instead for an average joe. Some jank with Xinerama (menus appearing on the wrong monitor), xinput (cursor snapping), general Motif shenanigans and interface bugs needing soft-restarts which there is a convenient button for. The upside is you get a really good theming engine and prettymuch everything can be changed.

I use them more for email, VPNs are 100% overrated and impractical in most cases regardless of who's running them. I do have my own Maddy server and an Underworld mail inbox too to keep things compartmentalized.

CC: @phnt@fluffytail.org

I trust Proton more than Nord etc. but yeah like any "privacy" provider that gets too big they eventually fall off. I wouldn't use them to do anything I don't want my local glowie looking at. You can't even register for an account through Tor. And idk if they let you pay with Monero.

CC: @rose@snac.pinkro.se

Rice flexing thread