@mdavis it's definitely a complicated topic! I guess it's down to us to figure out a model that best serves most people, while providing options to cover the rest.
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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.@joepie91 they will be opt-in, but different people have different opinions about what that means. For us, it means models won't be downloaded or data sent to models without the user's request.
However, some folks have said the only meaningful opt-in would be a separate binary for the browser-with-AI, or even having to compiling it manually.
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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.@bersl2 I agree it's a meaningless buzzword, but a lot of tech folks are saying they want "no AI" - they're using the buzzword. So the poll is about finding out what folks mean by "no AI".
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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.@chillicampari @joepie91 fwiw I asked about translation because we're figuring out what to do specifically about translation.
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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.@mdavis I believe it's a moral stance due to how the models were produced.
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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.@mdavis folks want to disable 'AI' for more reasons than privacy. Privacy is important of course, but folks are also concerned about the training data, and energy used for the training.
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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.@m I agree the folks I'm polling here do not represent the average user, but in this case I'm specifically interested in the thoughts of those who really dislike 'AI', and I think I've reached them

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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.@joepie91 I think a lot of people in the replies would consider this sneaky. It's a tricky UX problem. But yes, granular control needs to be part of the solution, along with a kill switch.
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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.@malte there will be granular options for this stuff. The question is about the non-granular "kill switch".
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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.@joepie91 yeah, I agree with all that, but even tech folks are asking for a way to 'get rid of AI'. I'm pretty certain if we tried to redefine what they're asking for, it would be received poorly.
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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.@decadecity I like this framing of it. Thank you!
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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.@zzt I posted this poll after a meeting where we discussed the design of the kill switch, and there was uncertainty around translations. I want to make sure the community's voice is represented in these discussions.
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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.@xela no external service is used. I'm not sure on the resources used for training, but it's useful to know that would factor into your decision. The project is here https://github.com/mozilla/translations
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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.
They're not LLMs. They're trained on open data.
Should translation be disabled if the AI 'kill switch' is active?