@artemis @shadowfals Yeah, this is right.

I find I'm often needing to point out that, until the early 2000s, popular discourse in the US was severely constricted and dominated by commercial media, which systematically censored any mention of leftist groups or ideas.

Chomsky was about at the limit of what they'd tolerate, in detailing US atrocities and malign foreign policy, based on public records and mainstream journalistic accounts. Significantly, Chomsky would always deflect any questions about what alternatives he'd support, rarely going further than supporting abstract resistance.

@artemis This reminds me that in a conflict over a history of sexual abuse in left groups, at one point we were looking at a document in which sexual abusers were denying they had committed sexual abuse, and blamed the accusations on "Me Too".

This backfired on them. It was an ugly conflict, but at least sexual abusers who tried to hide their history and DARVO their way back into political leadership failed.

@anttipeltola When I've read histories of computers and programming, I was surprised how often Finnish universities were mentioned.

This also sounds like what's happened with universities in the US. In the 90s, a lot of significant software was developed and supported by universities and government-funded research organizations. But universities ended up outsourcing their IT.

@BrianJopek The Olivia Hill Rule can be adapted to many art forms.

https://rpgmuseum.fandom.com/wiki/No_fascists

@alice It's definitely something that men are trained to do. I've had people criticize me for not being "assertive" enough, in just this way. In workplaces, though, I'm usually low enough in status that I'm not expected to say anything in a meeting.

I have also been criticized for talking over people, to be fair. I don't mean to; I just want to complete a thought. In a lot of conversations I feel like I'm waiting for my turn, and I don't recognize when my turn is over.

EDIT: removed a bad figure of speech.