@Azarilh I agree Education is key and blocking is a double edged sword.
But the current ecosystem is causing a complete brain rot of an entire generation fueled by big corps and authoritarian regimes. Thus we need to start gatekeeping and moderating some usages or at least creating digital safe networks where devices handled by minors can connect freely. Children should be allowed to grow naturally and not jump start to all the crazy shit adults like to sell.

@aubrey True thus we should fight governments with better solutions. But the digital world can't become a lawless place or catered just by big corps.

@aubrey @soderling That's not exactly the sequence. Service -> govID -> you authenticate with govID -> you share age verification with service -> they store a valid age verification token -> gov can check valid tokens not who made them (by law).
The are other conversations involved like anonymity vs privacy. Public vs private data. But it is technically possible, it's more on how we setup our digital legal governance.

@aubrey @soderling They can save it, it's pointless, it's just a valid age verification token. The critical point is the authentication system that by law and governance, would be made in a way where you only authorise an age verification not sharing private data with the digital service OR logging on the government side what site you're trying to use. There are more technical steps available for privacy like key pairs, blockchain, owning your data I would prefer first but it is possible.

@soderling No, it is not. Any digital service could query a digital gov ID just for age verification (yes/no signed key) and nothing else is stored in either side. A government audit can run on all users just to make sure they have those signed keys WITHOUT knowing who they are.

@Tutanota Just a note. Age verification is not mutually exclusive to everything that is on the safer column. If the real world has age requirements in some operations, it's acceptable that the digital world also has the same. Making the Internet lawless is what drives attacks on other liberties.