@thomasfuchs and even if you are a programmer, you can still be paid by the amount of salt you use. Or chef, or puppet, or ansible, or terraform...

@mtrnord @Linux_in_a_Bit as frustrating as that is, it helps to remember people that do help are global and probably not in your time zone.

@malte @Slacker because you don't buy a car to tweak the engine until you know how the car works first. Then you learn about the engine. Then you tweak it.

Many 'noobs' are mad there isn't a bolt-on upgrade to rice it. i.e. a double-click method and that it takes some learning.

At least, this is the experience I've had, and so I just don't bother helping anymore.